1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:10,611 --> 00:00:11,612 - They asked me what I do. 4 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:13,514 I said, well, I play the guitar. 5 00:00:13,947 --> 00:00:16,450 They said, well, are you in a group? 6 00:00:19,553 --> 00:00:20,288 - Ladies and Gentlemen, 7 00:00:20,388 --> 00:00:21,255 here are The Ventures. 8 00:00:22,756 --> 00:00:23,657 - I love The Ventures. 9 00:00:23,757 --> 00:00:24,525 - I know you do. - This is like 10 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:26,026 one of my favorite groups in history. 11 00:00:29,397 --> 00:00:32,766 - Certainly for us guitarists, Jeff Beck, myself and Eric, 12 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,136 we've all played Ventures material when we were kids. 13 00:00:37,405 --> 00:00:38,239 - The Ventures. 14 00:00:38,339 --> 00:00:40,074 In the sixth grade in grammar school, 15 00:00:40,174 --> 00:00:43,777 every boy in my class could play "Wipeout" on his desk. 16 00:00:45,579 --> 00:00:46,947 - "Wipeout". 17 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:49,016 - Those instrumentals led the way. 18 00:00:52,420 --> 00:00:55,323 - They have recorded 3,000 songs. 19 00:00:55,423 --> 00:00:57,925 They have written 1,000 songs. 20 00:00:58,025 --> 00:01:01,662 - They took other people's songs and made them way better. 21 00:01:01,762 --> 00:01:03,964 - All we have to do is hum "Hawaii Five-O" 22 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,199 or "Walk Don't Run" 23 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:07,668 and the person's instantly like, oh yeah, I know that. 24 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:08,802 - Of course I know that. 25 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:11,172 - They're the number one song instrumental group 26 00:01:11,272 --> 00:01:12,740 in the history of the music. 27 00:01:20,848 --> 00:01:24,051 - There was no language barrier. 28 00:01:24,152 --> 00:01:26,620 It was just movement. 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,055 - The guitar has arrived 30 00:01:28,156 --> 00:01:30,291 and The Ventures are the messengers. 31 00:01:33,494 --> 00:01:35,095 - None of the rest of us would be here 32 00:01:35,196 --> 00:01:36,029 without The Ventures. 33 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:38,299 - I think like every band in the world 34 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:40,268 had Walk Don't Run in their set. 35 00:01:40,368 --> 00:01:42,203 - Everyone wants to get that sound. 36 00:01:42,303 --> 00:01:44,272 It just speaks to you directly to the soul. 37 00:01:44,372 --> 00:01:45,873 - It just as magic to me. 38 00:01:49,710 --> 00:01:50,811 - This is surf music 39 00:01:50,911 --> 00:01:52,613 and The Ventures were a really important part of it. 40 00:01:52,713 --> 00:01:55,649 - This was like everything I was aspiring to. 41 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:59,987 - The Ventures always made me feel like I wanted to dance, 42 00:02:00,087 --> 00:02:02,990 pick up a guitar and just look really cool. 43 00:03:02,015 --> 00:03:03,784 - When I was younger I wanted to learn 44 00:03:03,884 --> 00:03:06,153 how to play the trombone. 45 00:03:06,254 --> 00:03:08,756 I thought the trombone had such a mellow sound, you know. 46 00:03:08,856 --> 00:03:11,359 It was Tommy Dorsey that I really liked. 47 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:15,296 I started playing it in junior high school. 48 00:03:15,396 --> 00:03:17,765 Then when I went into the Army, 49 00:03:17,865 --> 00:03:19,099 I went to Germany. 50 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:20,801 They said, I see you play the trombone. 51 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:23,537 Would you like to go into the band? 52 00:03:23,637 --> 00:03:24,905 No, i don't think so. 53 00:03:25,806 --> 00:03:28,709 Biggest mistake I ever made in my life. 54 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:32,480 Use to wake you up at three or four o'clock in the morning 55 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:34,181 for a 20 mile hike. 56 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:37,251 Then we'd go out on what they call biv-wack. 57 00:03:37,351 --> 00:03:41,655 You would march and you'd stay out for about a week. 58 00:03:41,755 --> 00:03:43,791 And I'm talking winter time. 59 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:45,293 After about three months 60 00:03:45,393 --> 00:03:48,496 I'm thinking I'm going to try to get in the band. 61 00:03:49,663 --> 00:03:51,865 I'll be darned if I didn't have my orders cut 62 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:52,766 to go to the band. 63 00:03:52,866 --> 00:03:54,468 They called me out and said, 64 00:03:54,568 --> 00:03:55,836 I guess you're going to the band. 65 00:03:55,936 --> 00:04:00,040 We got the orders that your request came through. 66 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:01,375 So, then I was in the band. 67 00:04:01,475 --> 00:04:03,411 And it was really good. 68 00:04:03,511 --> 00:04:05,846 I really enjoyed that. 69 00:04:05,946 --> 00:04:07,981 And I did meet a guy that was in the band. 70 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:10,284 He played the glockenspiel, 71 00:04:10,384 --> 00:04:12,252 which is bells. 72 00:04:12,353 --> 00:04:16,256 And he played a guitar and he was kind of jazzy 73 00:04:16,357 --> 00:04:18,859 and I played a few chords on a guitar 74 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,662 that I learned from my mom, believe it or not. 75 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:23,964 He was with some trio that you might know, 76 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:26,500 the Page Cavenaugh Trio. 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,605 So, he taught me some kind of jazzy chords 78 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:33,006 and stuff like that. 79 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:35,709 I never did pick up a guitar 80 00:04:36,877 --> 00:04:39,780 for awhile until I met Bob Bogle. 81 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:43,884 I was working in my dad's car lot 82 00:04:43,984 --> 00:04:48,322 and I was considered to be the lot boy. 83 00:04:48,422 --> 00:04:49,923 Bob Bogle came in one time. 84 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:51,925 I didn't know him at all. 85 00:04:52,025 --> 00:04:53,727 And he wanted to buy a car. 86 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:56,296 He said, how about that car over there, he'd point to. 87 00:04:56,397 --> 00:04:58,366 And I said, nah, you don't want that car. 88 00:04:58,466 --> 00:05:00,368 You know, I was a terrible salesman. 89 00:05:00,468 --> 00:05:03,571 A good salesman would say yeah, that's the car for you. 90 00:05:03,671 --> 00:05:05,005 He and I got to talking 91 00:05:05,105 --> 00:05:07,040 and we got along real good. 92 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,008 And so, I asked him. 93 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:09,076 I said, what do you do. 94 00:05:09,176 --> 00:05:12,980 He said, well, I'm in the bricklayer trade. 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,382 He got me a job. 96 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:19,753 The first thing I did was I was a hod carrier. 97 00:05:21,589 --> 00:05:22,356 As a lot of people know, 98 00:05:22,456 --> 00:05:25,092 it rains a lot in Tacoma and Seattle, 99 00:05:25,192 --> 00:05:27,961 so a lot of times, if you're working outside 100 00:05:28,061 --> 00:05:30,931 replacing the mortar between bricks, 101 00:05:31,031 --> 00:05:33,467 a lot of times you can't work. 102 00:05:33,567 --> 00:05:35,736 Bob and I, we thought what are we going to do. 103 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:39,907 You told me you play a little bit of guitar and so do I. 104 00:05:40,007 --> 00:05:41,842 Why don't we buy a couple of guitars 105 00:05:41,942 --> 00:05:44,344 and when we're not working out of town 106 00:05:44,445 --> 00:05:45,746 we have nothing to do anyway. 107 00:05:45,846 --> 00:05:48,449 Might as well try to learn how to play the guitar. 108 00:05:49,783 --> 00:05:53,687 In 1959 we bought two guitars 109 00:05:53,787 --> 00:05:56,557 in a pawn shop in Tacoma, Washington 110 00:05:56,657 --> 00:06:00,394 and we probably paid $10 or $15 a piece for them. 111 00:06:00,494 --> 00:06:02,863 And the strings were, I don't know, 112 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:04,732 half and inch from the neck. 113 00:06:04,832 --> 00:06:07,535 Those guitars were so hard to play 114 00:06:07,635 --> 00:06:09,102 but we bought chord books and things 115 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:10,738 and learned everything we could 116 00:06:10,838 --> 00:06:12,906 and then we thought we'd step out 117 00:06:13,006 --> 00:06:16,644 and pay a down payment on some Fender guitars, 118 00:06:16,744 --> 00:06:18,278 which we did. 119 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:19,379 - I think something that really 120 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,415 set The Ventures sound apart from other groups 121 00:06:21,515 --> 00:06:23,517 is how they utilized two guitars 122 00:06:23,617 --> 00:06:25,285 to really fill out their sound. 123 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:27,220 - Normally, you think of there's the lead guitar 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,255 and the rhythm guitar. 125 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:30,390 And the lead is always in the front 126 00:06:30,491 --> 00:06:31,559 and the rhythm's in the background 127 00:06:31,659 --> 00:06:33,527 and thought of as not as important 128 00:06:33,627 --> 00:06:35,429 but in The Ventures both guitars 129 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:36,897 were always just as important. 130 00:06:36,997 --> 00:06:39,900 - There was only two of us to begin with, two guitars. 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,102 I tried to make up for not having a drum 132 00:06:42,202 --> 00:06:45,573 and he tried to make up for not having a keyboard. 133 00:06:45,673 --> 00:06:47,441 You know, by using the whammy bar. 134 00:06:48,609 --> 00:06:50,644 Make it wavy. 135 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:52,480 - The guy playing the lead, 136 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:54,047 which I believe was Bob Bogle 137 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:55,315 but I didn't know that then, 138 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:57,685 but the guitar was really twanging. 139 00:06:57,785 --> 00:06:59,119 It was going . 140 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:03,924 - The lead was great 141 00:07:04,024 --> 00:07:07,861 but the rhythm parts were always just as interesting. 142 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:11,732 - Don Wilson is a really interesting rhythm player. 143 00:07:11,832 --> 00:07:13,501 I looked at his amp settings. 144 00:07:13,601 --> 00:07:15,636 He's got the high end cranked all the way 145 00:07:15,736 --> 00:07:17,938 and he's got the low end cranked all the way off 146 00:07:18,038 --> 00:07:19,039 and he's playing it 147 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:21,575 and it's a percussive sound. 148 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:22,610 - Just the rhythm man. 149 00:07:24,812 --> 00:07:26,146 - It was just straight ahead. 150 00:07:29,416 --> 00:07:31,018 - Mostly downstrokes. 151 00:07:36,323 --> 00:07:37,625 Not 152 00:07:37,725 --> 00:07:38,659 I never did that. 153 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:41,695 - That kind of rhythm was unheard of. 154 00:07:42,563 --> 00:07:45,633 And when I was a kid, nobody played like that. 155 00:07:45,733 --> 00:07:49,236 - I mean, I just really beat hard. 156 00:07:49,336 --> 00:07:51,038 - He didn't just strum a chord. 157 00:07:52,873 --> 00:07:54,708 He didn't just play Apreggios. 158 00:07:59,379 --> 00:08:01,181 He always made it interesting by muting, 159 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:04,451 adding reverb and making it a little more percussive. 160 00:08:04,552 --> 00:08:06,520 - Me playing real hard rhythm 161 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:09,089 and him playing that kind of style, 162 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:10,390 when we got a bass and drummer, 163 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:11,458 it just stuck. 164 00:08:13,994 --> 00:08:16,496 We thought we were hey, versatile, 165 00:08:16,597 --> 00:08:18,766 so we called ourselves The Versatones. 166 00:08:18,866 --> 00:08:20,868 And we went to register the name 167 00:08:20,968 --> 00:08:23,236 and by god, it was already taken, 168 00:08:23,336 --> 00:08:25,505 otherwise we'd be The Versatones. 169 00:08:25,606 --> 00:08:26,607 For about two weeks, 170 00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:28,809 we called ourselves The Impacts. 171 00:08:34,815 --> 00:08:35,916 I remember that. 172 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:38,485 And then my mom said, you know, 173 00:08:38,586 --> 00:08:41,021 you guys are venturing into something new. 174 00:08:41,121 --> 00:08:42,756 Why don't you call yourselves The Ventures? 175 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:44,658 I said, well, that's pretty corny. 176 00:08:45,826 --> 00:08:47,360 But anyway that kind of stuck 177 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:49,496 and we said, well, okay. 178 00:08:49,597 --> 00:08:50,864 We'll call ourselves The Ventures. 179 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:55,936 We'd play for anybody that wanted to hear it. 180 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:57,337 If somebody's having a party, 181 00:08:57,437 --> 00:08:58,438 can we come and play? 182 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,874 We weren't quite good enough to play for clubs 183 00:09:00,974 --> 00:09:02,976 and there was only the two of us. 184 00:09:03,076 --> 00:09:06,580 So, we entered a lot of talent contests, 185 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,182 which are really a popularity contest. 186 00:09:09,282 --> 00:09:11,518 In those days you had to do something more 187 00:09:11,619 --> 00:09:13,053 than just play music. 188 00:09:13,153 --> 00:09:14,354 I mean, a lot of times 189 00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:18,258 a drummer would put on some gorilla mask or something 190 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:19,960 and act like a fool, 191 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:21,895 which that just wasn't our way. 192 00:09:21,995 --> 00:09:24,397 We played some pretty rough places. 193 00:09:24,497 --> 00:09:26,834 We worked at a place called the Blue Moon. 194 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:29,603 We worked there probably for a month 195 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:33,173 and then we worked at the Java Jive for, 196 00:09:33,273 --> 00:09:34,341 I don't know how long, 197 00:09:34,441 --> 00:09:36,176 maybe a month, month and a half something like that. 198 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:39,446 At night I'd be at the Britannia every Saturday. 199 00:09:39,546 --> 00:09:42,415 The Britannia, boy that was a rough place. 200 00:09:42,515 --> 00:09:46,453 That was where they had a lot of soldiers from Fort Lewis 201 00:09:46,553 --> 00:09:50,624 and Canadian soldiers that were training at Fort Lewis. 202 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:52,893 There must have been five fights a night, 203 00:09:52,993 --> 00:09:54,394 beer bottles flying. 204 00:09:56,363 --> 00:10:00,033 They had actually a police car out in front. 205 00:10:00,133 --> 00:10:01,368 When a fight broke out, 206 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:04,204 they would go get these people, put them in the car. 207 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:06,940 They'd just wait until they got about five of them 208 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:10,110 and then they'd take them all to jail. 209 00:10:10,210 --> 00:10:11,679 When we played there, 210 00:10:11,779 --> 00:10:15,048 we played from noon until midnight. 211 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:16,416 It did us a lot of good though, 212 00:10:16,516 --> 00:10:19,219 because we had to have quite a repertoire 213 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:22,489 and not keep playing the same things over and over again. 214 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:26,193 We saved enough to go into the studio 215 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:28,996 and we were $25 short. 216 00:10:29,096 --> 00:10:29,863 I asked, 217 00:10:29,963 --> 00:10:30,864 I went to my dad. 218 00:10:30,964 --> 00:10:33,400 I said, can I borrow $25. 219 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:34,634 I can't remember the exact phrase he said 220 00:10:34,735 --> 00:10:38,571 but he said, not only am I not going to give you money, 221 00:10:38,672 --> 00:10:40,908 I don't want you wasting your time 222 00:10:41,008 --> 00:10:43,443 trying to play that guitar. 223 00:10:43,543 --> 00:10:46,980 But my mom was a big, big supporter. 224 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,784 - Josie had been a singer earlier in her life 225 00:10:50,884 --> 00:10:52,986 and appreciated music, 226 00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:54,454 saw a talent. 227 00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:58,425 - I thought well, I think they probably deserve a chance 228 00:10:58,525 --> 00:11:01,028 to see maybe if they can make a record. 229 00:11:01,128 --> 00:11:03,496 - And she was a pioneer in the music business. 230 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:05,933 She produced and promoted The Ventures 231 00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:08,435 with the original Blue Horizon label. 232 00:11:08,535 --> 00:11:11,504 - She said, you know, if no body wants you guys, 233 00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:13,841 why don't we start our own record company? 234 00:11:13,941 --> 00:11:16,009 So we did, Blue Horizon. 235 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:23,951 My mom wrote "Cookies and Coke". 236 00:11:24,051 --> 00:11:25,685 That was our first record. 237 00:11:25,786 --> 00:11:28,288 - There was a woman involved in the beginning of their band 238 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:30,290 and she worked really hard for them 239 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:31,624 and she was really smart 240 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:35,729 and she made decisions and pursued the radio station. 241 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,798 She really pursued things for them 242 00:11:37,898 --> 00:11:42,402 and I think that that's really special for us as women too. 243 00:11:42,502 --> 00:11:43,570 - Yeah. 244 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:45,338 - There was no women in the business at that time, 245 00:11:45,438 --> 00:11:46,740 especially producing. 246 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,677 I'm sure she was unique and maybe the first one. 247 00:11:50,778 --> 00:11:53,947 - She paved the way for other bands to do it on their own. 248 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:56,116 - She started the fan club and she worked it 249 00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:59,619 while she was doing production and everything else. 250 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:02,222 - As a little kid I would write to Josie 251 00:12:02,322 --> 00:12:04,357 and ask her questions about 252 00:12:04,457 --> 00:12:05,759 when's the next record coming out 253 00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:06,860 and all this stuff. 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,895 And she would write me back. 255 00:12:07,995 --> 00:12:09,429 She would send me a personal letter. 256 00:12:09,529 --> 00:12:12,165 - Josie was influential, 257 00:12:12,265 --> 00:12:14,434 stood behind The Ventures, 258 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:16,804 gave them every opportunity. 259 00:12:16,904 --> 00:12:19,139 She was the biggest fan. 260 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:22,843 - To measure what she contributed 261 00:12:22,943 --> 00:12:25,745 is immeasurable, really. 262 00:12:25,846 --> 00:12:27,380 - Don's mom was awesome. 263 00:12:29,416 --> 00:12:30,717 - So, then we found a song 264 00:12:30,818 --> 00:12:35,823 that was on a vinyl record of Chet Atkins 265 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:38,725 called "Walk Don't Run". 266 00:12:38,826 --> 00:12:42,629 And he played it in a jazzy finger-style. 267 00:12:42,729 --> 00:12:44,297 We'd only been playing for six months. 268 00:12:44,397 --> 00:12:45,565 We couldn't do that. 269 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:47,434 - We weren't professional enough 270 00:12:47,534 --> 00:12:49,102 to play the song the way it was written. 271 00:12:49,202 --> 00:12:51,271 It was too complicated for us. 272 00:12:51,371 --> 00:12:53,473 - So, we Venturized it. 273 00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:56,076 - Written in 1954 by Johnny Smith, 274 00:12:56,176 --> 00:12:59,212 recorded in 1957 by Chet Atkins 275 00:12:59,312 --> 00:13:01,281 and regarded by Rolling Stone magazine 276 00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:04,551 as one of the hundred greatest guitar songs of all time. 277 00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:06,453 I give you "Walk Don't Run". 278 00:13:14,761 --> 00:13:16,429 - We'd have to always do that song 279 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:17,965 three or four, five times a night 280 00:13:18,065 --> 00:13:19,933 because people just loved hearing it. 281 00:13:20,868 --> 00:13:24,637 So, we decided to record that. 282 00:13:24,737 --> 00:13:28,641 - I did take them to a studio in Seattle. 283 00:13:28,741 --> 00:13:30,911 Joe Boles Custom Recorders. 284 00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:34,147 - It was a two track. 285 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,184 The bass and the drum on one track 286 00:13:37,284 --> 00:13:39,686 and you did the rhythm and the lead on the other. 287 00:13:39,786 --> 00:13:42,522 I remember his echo chamber 288 00:13:42,622 --> 00:13:47,660 was a microphone hanging on the shower in his shower room. 289 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,597 He said, I'm going to try something with you guys. 290 00:13:50,697 --> 00:13:52,765 I'm going to put a microphone right there 291 00:13:52,866 --> 00:13:53,901 where you're picking 292 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:56,136 and I want to see if I can't get the pick sound, 293 00:13:56,236 --> 00:13:58,038 you know picking the strings. 294 00:13:58,138 --> 00:14:00,908 Anyway, he got a great sound out of us. 295 00:14:01,008 --> 00:14:02,275 - Bob Bogle played lead. 296 00:14:02,375 --> 00:14:03,476 Don Wilson played rhythm. 297 00:14:03,576 --> 00:14:05,578 And Nokie Edwards played bass. 298 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:10,650 - I was working with a country artist, Buck Owens. 299 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:13,887 Don and Bob came in the club where I was working 300 00:14:13,987 --> 00:14:15,555 and saw me play 301 00:14:15,655 --> 00:14:17,690 and liked the way I played. 302 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,828 And asked me if I wanted to join up with them. 303 00:14:21,929 --> 00:14:24,965 - He was just outstanding as a guitar player. 304 00:14:25,065 --> 00:14:26,666 We asked him if he'd play the bass 305 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:29,536 and he said that he would and he did. 306 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:31,071 - If you're a real geek 307 00:14:31,171 --> 00:14:34,641 then you know that there's two distinct versions 308 00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:36,843 of The Ventures in the 1960s. 309 00:14:36,944 --> 00:14:38,311 There was the early period 310 00:14:38,411 --> 00:14:40,547 where Bob Bogle played lead guitar 311 00:14:40,647 --> 00:14:42,649 and that was definitely more rooted 312 00:14:42,749 --> 00:14:45,318 in sort of a '50s rock and roll feel 313 00:14:45,418 --> 00:14:48,721 but then at some point, Nokie Edwards who was playing bass, 314 00:14:48,821 --> 00:14:50,323 switched over to lead guitar. 315 00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:52,725 And Bob went over to play bass. 316 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,095 And then it became a completely different band. 317 00:14:55,195 --> 00:14:57,330 - Don was a great rhythm guitar player. 318 00:14:57,430 --> 00:15:00,400 Has his own sound, his own style, his own touch. 319 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:02,835 Bob had his own style too as well. 320 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:05,205 Very much like a guitar player on bass. 321 00:15:05,305 --> 00:15:07,840 Nokie was a brilliant lead guitar player. 322 00:15:07,941 --> 00:15:09,709 - Nokie had been playing the guitar 323 00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:11,744 since he was five years old. 324 00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:14,714 He was a king around Seattle, Tacoma area. 325 00:15:14,814 --> 00:15:16,516 - Nokie had his roots in country. 326 00:15:16,616 --> 00:15:18,018 There was no question about it 327 00:15:18,118 --> 00:15:20,420 but he evolved into more of a finger-style picker 328 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,555 after he came in with The Ventures. 329 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:23,957 - Now, he was a country player 330 00:15:24,057 --> 00:15:25,225 but he was obviously listening 331 00:15:25,325 --> 00:15:27,627 to a lot of current music at the time 332 00:15:27,727 --> 00:15:30,197 and so he was bending a lot of notes. 333 00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:35,935 - I asked him one time why he played this way 334 00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:37,971 and he said he just wanted to play more notes. 335 00:15:38,071 --> 00:15:39,172 Not to overplay, 336 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:42,009 just to make his arrangement a little bit fuller. 337 00:15:42,109 --> 00:15:48,348 - Chet Atkins and Les Paul were Nokie and Bob Bogle's idols, 338 00:15:48,748 --> 00:15:50,083 especially Nokie. 339 00:15:50,183 --> 00:15:51,918 - He really likes mellow music. 340 00:15:52,019 --> 00:15:53,120 When he sits at home he just sits 341 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:55,022 and plays mellow finger picking music 342 00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:57,257 but everything kind of came together 343 00:15:57,357 --> 00:15:59,526 at that point in the mid '60s 344 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:04,397 where he sort of became this snarling, punk rock, 345 00:16:04,497 --> 00:16:07,634 crazy, violent sounding lead guitar 346 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:09,136 and it sort of worked with everything 347 00:16:09,236 --> 00:16:12,239 that was going on at that time in the music scene. 348 00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:18,478 - You know a funny thing with Nokie too, 349 00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:21,748 Les Paul sped up his playing 350 00:16:21,848 --> 00:16:24,051 and Nokie says he never knew that. 351 00:16:24,151 --> 00:16:28,721 So, he would try to play that as fast as it was sped up 352 00:16:28,821 --> 00:16:29,756 and I got to tell you, 353 00:16:29,856 --> 00:16:33,226 sometimes he did a pretty good job. 354 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:36,063 - Bob Bogle loved the lead guitar 355 00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:39,699 but he knew that Nokie was the better player. 356 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:42,335 And Nokie was on bass right from the beginning, 357 00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:44,871 so Bob decided to switch with Nokie 358 00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:47,407 and said, you know, we need to feature you more. 359 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:49,576 Bob mentioned though that he didn't know how to play bass 360 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,378 and Nokie said, 361 00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:54,581 well, it's just the four strings of the guitar. 362 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:56,616 Nokie was not pretentious 363 00:16:56,716 --> 00:16:59,386 but he always helped his fellow players play 364 00:16:59,486 --> 00:17:01,221 and that's what made The Ventures great. 365 00:17:01,321 --> 00:17:02,855 They supported each other. 366 00:17:02,955 --> 00:17:04,657 - Anytime I saw The Ventures live, 367 00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:05,958 my favorite part of the show 368 00:17:06,059 --> 00:17:09,829 was when Bob would switch to guitar for a couple of songs. 369 00:17:09,929 --> 00:17:11,531 But then, at the same time, 370 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:15,235 Bob was also a wild man on the bass, 371 00:17:15,335 --> 00:17:17,036 which was kind of strange 372 00:17:17,137 --> 00:17:20,440 because he didn't have a wild man personality 373 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:24,244 but man, on the bass he was amazing. 374 00:17:28,315 --> 00:17:30,383 - The drummer that played "Walk Don't Run" 375 00:17:30,483 --> 00:17:33,553 was somebody that we had done these talent shows with 376 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:36,789 and he was a different type of a drummer. 377 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:38,725 He would make some drum rolls 378 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:41,094 that were quite different from anybody else. 379 00:17:41,194 --> 00:17:42,662 He would belt on it. 380 00:17:42,762 --> 00:17:46,032 There were rim shots in between the different things. 381 00:17:46,133 --> 00:17:51,138 He happened to be absolutely perfect for "Walk Don't Run". 382 00:17:51,371 --> 00:17:53,940 I said, we'll either give you a percentage 383 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,475 of what it makes or $25. 384 00:17:56,676 --> 00:17:58,111 He said, I'll take the 25. 385 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,348 That's the last we heard of him. 386 00:18:01,448 --> 00:18:04,984 And you know, he never cashed that check. 387 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,053 Then we got Howie Johnson. 388 00:18:07,154 --> 00:18:08,855 He was with us for, 389 00:18:08,955 --> 00:18:11,458 I guess maybe a year and a half, two years. 390 00:18:11,558 --> 00:18:14,394 And he got in a terrible car accident, 391 00:18:14,494 --> 00:18:16,996 so he couldn't really travel much. 392 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,031 And so, we needed a drummer. 393 00:18:19,132 --> 00:18:21,534 So, we happened to be at the Palomino club 394 00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:23,636 in North Hollywood. 395 00:18:23,736 --> 00:18:25,672 They said, why don't you get up and play? 396 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:27,207 And I said, well, I don't know 397 00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:29,809 they maybe not know "Walk Don't Run". 398 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:32,945 Mel, he said, I know your song very well, yeah. 399 00:18:33,045 --> 00:18:34,814 Sure come on, get up here. 400 00:18:34,914 --> 00:18:37,116 So, we did and he did it well, 401 00:18:37,217 --> 00:18:39,319 so we hired him. 402 00:18:41,053 --> 00:18:43,256 - Mel Taylor was a slamming drummer. 403 00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:46,025 - The bar is set very high by Mel 404 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:49,162 because "Wipeout" is no easy task. 405 00:18:55,468 --> 00:18:57,504 - To hear that kind of music 406 00:18:57,604 --> 00:19:00,273 with a drummer who hit the drums that hard, 407 00:19:00,373 --> 00:19:01,841 that excited us, you know. 408 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:03,910 - When I saw them live, 409 00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:07,280 the dynamics of Mel Taylor, 410 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:13,486 the drive that he put behind those guys in front 411 00:19:13,886 --> 00:19:16,456 that just took it to another level. 412 00:19:16,556 --> 00:19:21,394 - It's definitely sort of like the epitome of surf drumming. 413 00:19:25,298 --> 00:19:26,933 - The Ventures came 414 00:19:27,033 --> 00:19:30,770 and they played their first record for me 415 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:35,608 and I said, you know, I think you're very good. 416 00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:37,344 But this is not, 417 00:19:37,444 --> 00:19:39,546 this isn't it. 418 00:19:39,646 --> 00:19:40,813 - Everything was no. 419 00:19:40,913 --> 00:19:41,881 It was not a hit. 420 00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:44,851 A guy named Pat O'Day, who was the, 421 00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:45,985 became one of the, 422 00:19:46,085 --> 00:19:49,055 probably most famous disc jockey in Seattle. 423 00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:50,790 We got to be friends. 424 00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:55,362 And I said, do you think you could play "Walk Don't Run"? 425 00:19:55,462 --> 00:19:57,196 And he said, well, you know, 426 00:19:57,297 --> 00:20:00,233 I'd have to ask the program director. 427 00:20:00,333 --> 00:20:01,868 - If Pat played your record, 428 00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:03,670 all the other stations did too. 429 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:06,606 It's like he made us into these little mini superstars 430 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:08,007 in Seattle and Tacoma. 431 00:20:08,107 --> 00:20:11,278 - So, he said, well, the only thing I can do is to play it 432 00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:13,713 as what they call a news kicker. 433 00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:15,782 - Every hour they had news 434 00:20:15,882 --> 00:20:18,885 and before they put on the news program, 435 00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:21,153 they played what they called a news kicker. 436 00:20:21,254 --> 00:20:24,457 Pretty soon they announced over the air, 437 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,025 please don't call. 438 00:20:26,125 --> 00:20:27,126 Please don't call anymore. 439 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,795 Our phone lines are jammed. 440 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:31,598 We will play this record in its entirety. 441 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:36,269 - Well, we were working. 442 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:38,738 There was another guy there 443 00:20:38,838 --> 00:20:41,974 and we had a little portable radio. 444 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:43,410 And we started listening to it. 445 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:46,813 I said, that's our song right there playing on the radio. 446 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:48,348 Sure it is. 447 00:20:48,448 --> 00:20:52,018 - I heard on KJR radio in Seattle 448 00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:56,255 this remarkable instrumental. 449 00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:58,157 And I said, well, they're bending notes in there 450 00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:01,294 and they're flat, their sharp deliberately. 451 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:03,663 - We had been to Bob with the tape before 452 00:21:04,564 --> 00:21:07,467 and he turned us down. 453 00:21:08,468 --> 00:21:10,970 Well, then bob contacted me again. 454 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:14,874 - And I said, this is going to be a big hit. 455 00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:17,477 Do you know that? 456 00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:18,645 She said, really? 457 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:22,148 And I said, this is going to be possibly number one. 458 00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:24,016 - I think the smartest thing I'd ever done 459 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,486 was to take him on as a partner 460 00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:29,389 because he had the contacts. 461 00:21:29,489 --> 00:21:32,124 He had had a number one recording the The Fleetwoods 462 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:33,726 called "Come Softly To Me". 463 00:21:33,826 --> 00:21:37,664 I knew that he would have the knowledge of what to do 464 00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:40,900 and he already had a contract with Liberty Records. 465 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,835 - So, he sent it down to Liberty Records 466 00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:45,037 and the president of Liberty Records says, 467 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:47,006 no, i don't think it's a hit. 468 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:48,808 Although it was climbing the charts in Seattle 469 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:49,976 but only Seattle. 470 00:21:50,843 --> 00:21:53,546 Mr. Reisdorff said, well, I'll guarantee it. 471 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:58,551 If it doesn't make it, I'll pay the cost of the promotion 472 00:21:58,651 --> 00:22:01,754 and pressing and whatever else was involved. 473 00:22:01,854 --> 00:22:06,058 And it wound up going to number two in the nation. 474 00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:11,598 - As soon as I heard "Walk Don't Run" I bought a copy of it. 475 00:22:11,698 --> 00:22:14,166 - I couldn't believe what I was hearing. 476 00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:15,167 The drums were great 477 00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:17,437 but the sound of the guitars, the melody, 478 00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:18,838 everything about it. 479 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,173 - I was hearing a song 480 00:22:21,273 --> 00:22:22,875 that was being played, 481 00:22:23,943 --> 00:22:26,178 being sung on the guitar. 482 00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:27,414 - It sounded innovative. 483 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:28,581 It sounded modern. 484 00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:31,250 It sounded explorative. 485 00:22:31,718 --> 00:22:33,853 We had never heard anything like that before. 486 00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:36,355 - It has a feeling of adventure 487 00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:39,392 and you want to go on this trip with them. 488 00:22:39,492 --> 00:22:40,927 - I can't imagine what it would have been like 489 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:44,096 to have heard that music for the first time. 490 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:46,165 - At that point in time, we were going, 491 00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:49,235 how are they doing that? 492 00:22:49,335 --> 00:22:51,370 - I mean, there was so much going on on that record 493 00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:53,906 that I didn't understand. 494 00:22:54,006 --> 00:22:58,077 Had this incredible, now I know it's called reverb, 495 00:22:58,177 --> 00:22:59,812 but I didn't know what it was then. 496 00:22:59,912 --> 00:23:01,548 It was just guitar music. 497 00:23:01,648 --> 00:23:03,115 - Who found "Walk Don't Run" for them? 498 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:04,751 How'd they find that tune? 499 00:23:04,851 --> 00:23:06,786 I was growing up playing jazz. 500 00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:08,888 I had a million Johnny Smith records. 501 00:23:08,988 --> 00:23:11,157 I even had that song on one. 502 00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:13,626 - I never got a chance to ask Don and Bob, 503 00:23:13,726 --> 00:23:17,396 how in the heck did you pick a bebop song like that 504 00:23:17,497 --> 00:23:21,501 and turn it into what you made into a classic rock tune? 505 00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:24,971 - Every band in the world had "Walk Don't Run" in their set. 506 00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:27,774 Not the Johnny Smith or the Chet Atkins version. 507 00:23:27,874 --> 00:23:29,141 It was The Ventures version. 508 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:34,246 - I think The Ventures made music that was, 509 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:37,784 maybe wasn't accessible to the average person. 510 00:23:37,884 --> 00:23:39,819 They took like a jazz, 511 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:42,288 a complicated jazz tune like "Walk Don't Run" 512 00:23:42,388 --> 00:23:45,725 and made it into a simpler arrangement for rock, 513 00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:48,127 like a rock and roll arrangement, 514 00:23:48,227 --> 00:23:51,564 which made a lot of kids go, I want to learn that. 515 00:23:51,664 --> 00:23:54,000 - The chord progression to the rhythm guitar part 516 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,101 on "Walk Don't Run" 517 00:23:55,201 --> 00:23:57,637 was the very first thing I ever learned on guitar. 518 00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,238 - When we would listen 519 00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:02,875 and we were trying to play note for note. 520 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:04,076 We'd try to pick it out. 521 00:24:04,176 --> 00:24:04,877 Wait. 522 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:05,978 Do that again. 523 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,647 And they'd lift up the needle and go . 524 00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:09,916 And you'd do it again. 525 00:24:10,016 --> 00:24:11,651 Lift up that needle one more time. 526 00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:13,820 I think I might have it this time. 527 00:24:20,059 --> 00:24:21,227 Nope, that's not it. 528 00:24:22,228 --> 00:24:23,963 Until you got the little parts. 529 00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:26,198 - I would write all of the chords down 530 00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:27,867 and I would make the sheet music 531 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:29,969 and I would sell it to the local bands. 532 00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:31,771 - They were probably the first guitar teachers 533 00:24:31,871 --> 00:24:33,072 most of us ever had. 534 00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:36,142 - The great thing about it was everything was hearable 535 00:24:36,242 --> 00:24:38,678 because there were only four people 536 00:24:38,778 --> 00:24:39,979 and there wasn't singing 537 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,081 and a bunch of other stuff in the way. 538 00:24:42,181 --> 00:24:43,716 You could hear everything. 539 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:45,384 - People were saying, you're going to go in 540 00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:50,557 and record it without a piano or a saxophone? 541 00:24:50,657 --> 00:24:52,892 - A lot of people said it's too empty. 542 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:55,461 You know, you need an orchestra. 543 00:24:56,896 --> 00:25:00,667 - We didn't know any piano players or saxophone players. 544 00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:03,135 And probably was fortunate that we didn't 545 00:25:03,235 --> 00:25:05,538 because you know, it was just four pieces. 546 00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,039 Two guitars a bass and a drum. 547 00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:12,879 - The Pacific northwest, the Seattle, Tacoma area, 548 00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:14,413 in the late '50s, 549 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,949 it was just the beginnings of rock and roll. 550 00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:20,820 - We were at the crossroads from an old era. 551 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,324 The big band era moving into the new era of music. 552 00:25:25,424 --> 00:25:30,429 - This was new, modern, exciting electric guitar rock. 553 00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:31,598 - It's called electricity. 554 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:33,232 And when you're messing with electricity 555 00:25:33,332 --> 00:25:34,667 weird things happens sometimes. 556 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:37,336 And if you can catch it, you go, hey, that's cool. 557 00:25:37,436 --> 00:25:39,772 - The Ventures were a rock and roll band 558 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:42,875 and they had a lot more roll than they had rock. 559 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:44,143 I mean, The Ventures swing. 560 00:25:44,243 --> 00:25:45,745 They really swing. 561 00:25:45,845 --> 00:25:49,181 - But if you go back and listen that initial album, 562 00:25:49,281 --> 00:25:52,051 it's stands up against anything today. 563 00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:52,885 It's tight. 564 00:25:52,985 --> 00:25:55,822 It's musically correct. 565 00:25:55,922 --> 00:25:57,423 And it's infectious. 566 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,163 - The early days were, to say the least, 567 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,197 tough. 568 00:26:05,297 --> 00:26:10,803 Any rock and roller will tell you the same story, 569 00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:15,241 that their family suffered because of their work. 570 00:26:15,341 --> 00:26:18,745 I was on the road sometimes for six months at a time. 571 00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:19,946 You know, that was just, 572 00:26:20,046 --> 00:26:21,914 took over everything. 573 00:26:22,014 --> 00:26:23,115 You know, trying to make a living, 574 00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:26,352 which I thought, you know, well, I'll support them 575 00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:27,920 and I'll send them money and all that 576 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:30,222 but it's not enough. 577 00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:32,424 Your presence is worth more than that. 578 00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:33,392 You're dad. 579 00:26:38,497 --> 00:26:41,200 - I remember playing with Little Bill and the Blue Notes, 580 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,501 The Whalers. 581 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:46,238 All these guys were like 17 and 18 years old. 582 00:26:46,338 --> 00:26:47,573 We were 25. 583 00:26:48,474 --> 00:26:52,211 Our dressing room was right through the dance floor 584 00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:54,146 and I remember when I walked by 585 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,581 some guy said to his girlfriend, 586 00:26:55,682 --> 00:26:57,817 he said, boy, these guys are old. 587 00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:03,289 We were playing not big halls like Elvis 588 00:27:04,657 --> 00:27:07,393 or somebody of his stature would play. 589 00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:11,397 We saw a place with chicken wire on the windows 590 00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:13,666 and I said, wouldn't it be funny if we were playing there? 591 00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:16,736 And it turned out that we were. 592 00:27:16,836 --> 00:27:19,605 If we made $300 or 400, 593 00:27:19,706 --> 00:27:21,307 we each got 100 bucks. 594 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:26,245 Then we had to pay our own expenses besides that. 595 00:27:26,345 --> 00:27:27,246 When people see you, 596 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,215 they see you get up on stage and play, 597 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:30,549 oh yeah, boy, they've got it made. 598 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,151 That's an easy thing. 599 00:27:32,251 --> 00:27:34,553 They don't know about getting to and from. 600 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,889 We carried our own amplifiers and guitars 601 00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:38,557 and stuff and drums 602 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,927 and we had to set them up ourselves. 603 00:27:41,027 --> 00:27:42,829 We had this station wagon 604 00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:45,164 and we pulled a Uhaul trailer 605 00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:46,799 with all of our equipment in. 606 00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:49,368 And we had an old friend of mine 607 00:27:49,468 --> 00:27:52,004 that wanted to be the road manager. 608 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:55,007 And we did have a saxophone player for a while, 609 00:27:55,107 --> 00:27:56,208 on the road. 610 00:27:56,308 --> 00:27:57,643 And so, there's six of us. 611 00:27:57,744 --> 00:28:00,279 Three in front and three in the back. 612 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,114 And you know, you're like this 613 00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:04,316 everytime I hit a little thing. 614 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:05,952 Because we really couldn't afford it 615 00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:08,087 and we wanted to go home with some money, 616 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:09,922 we had a motel room. 617 00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,624 All five of us stayed in one room. 618 00:28:12,725 --> 00:28:15,995 - They had agents booking them across the country. 619 00:28:16,095 --> 00:28:19,098 And they get there and their next gig would be in Texas. 620 00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:20,733 They're in Chicago. 621 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:23,302 They have to call ahead to get some money 622 00:28:23,402 --> 00:28:25,938 to pay for the gas to go to do the job. 623 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:27,940 - Promoters had a system. 624 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,908 If they had, 625 00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:32,378 you were out, let's say for ten shows, 626 00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:34,747 and one was canceled, 627 00:28:34,847 --> 00:28:35,915 they wouldn't call you. 628 00:28:36,015 --> 00:28:37,149 They knew it. 629 00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:39,819 But they wouldn't call you until the day before 630 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:42,088 that cancellation. 631 00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:43,923 They'd call the day before and say, 632 00:28:44,023 --> 00:28:46,258 tomorrow night has been canceled. 633 00:28:47,994 --> 00:28:51,297 So, you've got 500 miles to drive. 634 00:28:51,397 --> 00:28:54,166 And then we were naive at the time 635 00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:56,502 and we'd take a check and we'd bring it back 636 00:28:56,602 --> 00:28:58,470 and you know, take it to the bank. 637 00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:00,572 They say, well, that's no good. 638 00:29:00,672 --> 00:29:03,675 We learned after awhile that you better get cash 639 00:29:04,944 --> 00:29:06,112 or nothing. 640 00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:12,952 Surf music got very popular. 641 00:29:13,052 --> 00:29:15,254 Of course, with "Wipeout" and "Pipeline" 642 00:29:16,823 --> 00:29:19,658 it was really getting a foothold. 643 00:29:20,626 --> 00:29:24,563 So, we thought "Walk Don't Run" in a surfing style 644 00:29:24,663 --> 00:29:26,332 would be maybe something. 645 00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:30,036 And it was still that wonderful melody of "Walk Don't Run". 646 00:29:30,136 --> 00:29:33,405 To our surprise, it made the top ten. 647 00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:37,276 I was watching Casey Kasem on TV 648 00:29:37,376 --> 00:29:39,846 in the top 40 countdown, you know. 649 00:29:39,946 --> 00:29:44,951 He said, who was the very first artist recording 650 00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:50,289 that had this same song with two different arrangements, 651 00:29:50,722 --> 00:29:52,658 both hit the top ten? 652 00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:54,160 And I'm sitting there saying, I don't know. 653 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:55,627 I wonder who it was. 654 00:29:55,727 --> 00:29:58,297 And he came back and said, it was The Ventures 655 00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:02,368 with "Walk Don't Run" and "Walk Don't Run '64". 656 00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:05,737 - The Ventures are musicians and scientists 657 00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:08,240 of what it is surf music 658 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:10,642 before surf music was even predicted. 659 00:30:10,742 --> 00:30:14,780 - We have been labeled as a surf group 660 00:30:14,881 --> 00:30:18,350 but that term wasn't coined yet, you know surf music. 661 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:19,886 - People that define a genre, 662 00:30:19,986 --> 00:30:23,622 very rarely consider themselves of that genre. 663 00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:26,625 I'm sure Elvis didn't think he was a rock-a-billy singer 664 00:30:26,725 --> 00:30:27,960 or rock and roll singer. 665 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:30,762 I'm sure he thought he was just like Frank Sinatra. 666 00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:37,703 - Probably the reason that they got 667 00:30:37,803 --> 00:30:39,705 thrown into that surf hopper 668 00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:42,241 is because they played Fender guitars 669 00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:44,143 through Fender reverb units, 670 00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:45,912 through Fender amplifiers, 671 00:30:46,012 --> 00:30:48,114 had a very clean sound. 672 00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:50,849 - This was all new technology in those days. 673 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:53,185 A Fender Stratocaster was a new thing. 674 00:30:53,285 --> 00:30:57,456 A Jazzmaster Fender basses we exciting times 675 00:30:57,556 --> 00:31:00,426 and they incorporated these sounds 676 00:31:00,526 --> 00:31:02,494 in the records that they made 677 00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:04,263 and they were unique. 678 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:07,233 - The Ventures, I've heard, love Fender. 679 00:31:07,333 --> 00:31:09,801 And Fender is that mass produced guitar 680 00:31:09,902 --> 00:31:10,769 that everyone uses 681 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:12,538 and they're great work horses. 682 00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:16,575 But the mystique lies in the Mosrite guitars, 683 00:31:16,675 --> 00:31:17,843 which they had their names on. 684 00:31:17,944 --> 00:31:19,445 And I think a lot of people think, 685 00:31:19,545 --> 00:31:21,613 everything was done with Mosrite guitars. 686 00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:26,752 - Nokie introduced The Ventures to the Mosrite guitar 687 00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:29,388 because he was friends with Gene Moles and Semie Moseley. 688 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:31,157 - Semie Moseley approached us 689 00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:33,425 and said, I'll make a Ventures model guitar 690 00:31:33,525 --> 00:31:35,327 and we'll pay you a royalty. 691 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:36,762 We picked up the Mosrite 692 00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:39,265 and played it for about three years, I guess. 693 00:31:39,365 --> 00:31:42,068 - I always wanted a Mosrite 694 00:31:42,168 --> 00:31:43,769 because The Ventures played them, you know. 695 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:45,404 - Well, it was that unusual guitar. 696 00:31:45,504 --> 00:31:48,340 It was like a Stratocaster upside-down. 697 00:31:50,076 --> 00:31:51,277 - Mosrite guitars are unique 698 00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:52,478 because they're very frail. 699 00:31:52,578 --> 00:31:54,646 They have a very slim neck. 700 00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:55,781 - If you're trying to play blues 701 00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:57,649 or rock and get sustained notes, 702 00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,685 you're trying to push a note up and hold it, 703 00:31:59,785 --> 00:32:01,287 on the Mosrite it would hit the next string 704 00:32:01,387 --> 00:32:02,321 and it would cancel each other, 705 00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:04,323 it'll craple out your sustain. 706 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:05,157 Eh-uh. 707 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:06,158 And it would suddenly stop 708 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:07,359 because you're hitting the next string. 709 00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:09,528 - And they have something called a zero fret. 710 00:32:09,628 --> 00:32:13,265 And in fact there's a zero fret guitar behind me here. 711 00:32:13,365 --> 00:32:14,200 Not a Mosrite 712 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,502 but the advantage of a zero fret, 713 00:32:16,602 --> 00:32:19,538 it's usually the trademark of a very cheap guitar 714 00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:20,939 but it's a trick you can use 715 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,310 to get the stings lying flat against the fingerboard, 716 00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:25,744 which means they're easy to play. 717 00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:26,778 And if they're easy to play, 718 00:32:26,878 --> 00:32:28,847 it's easy to play fast and clean. 719 00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:32,918 - Wilson Brothers Guitar Company was set up by Tim Wilson, 720 00:32:33,019 --> 00:32:34,686 Don Wilson's son, to honor his dad. 721 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:38,357 - They're one of the first bands, if not the first band, 722 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:41,060 to have their own signature guitar line. 723 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,961 And of course, they started with Mosrite. 724 00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:44,263 When that ended in the '70s 725 00:32:44,363 --> 00:32:46,032 they went with Aria in Japan. 726 00:32:46,132 --> 00:32:47,333 They had some Fender guitars. 727 00:32:47,433 --> 00:32:48,867 And now they have the Wilson Brothers. 728 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,236 And all those guitars, 729 00:32:50,336 --> 00:32:52,404 what's really the most important thing 730 00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:54,906 is that they were accessible to the average fan. 731 00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:56,475 They weren't super pricey. 732 00:32:56,575 --> 00:32:58,344 The average fan was able to buy one 733 00:32:58,444 --> 00:33:00,512 and feel like there were part of The Ventures. 734 00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:02,248 - When you hear the word Ventures, 735 00:33:02,348 --> 00:33:03,749 you hear the word guitar. 736 00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:05,417 And if you say guitar, 737 00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:06,785 you say The Ventures. 738 00:33:06,885 --> 00:33:09,221 - It's like the backbone of guitar music, you know. 739 00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:11,390 - And even if they weren't the first guys 740 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:13,359 who played electric guitar, 741 00:33:13,459 --> 00:33:16,962 they're the ones that we associate it with. 742 00:33:17,063 --> 00:33:18,697 - There weren't a lot of people playing guitar. 743 00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:21,767 I mean, now a days, there's millions of guitar outs 744 00:33:21,867 --> 00:33:24,002 and millions of people that play guitar. 745 00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:25,371 When I was young, 746 00:33:25,471 --> 00:33:28,040 if you just owned a guitar, that was a big deal. 747 00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:31,843 - The guitar can be played in any style 748 00:33:31,943 --> 00:33:33,145 and it's portable. 749 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:37,483 - When troubadours who were going with portable instruments, 750 00:33:38,817 --> 00:33:40,719 ancestors of the guitar, 751 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:45,524 mankind started to be able to play anywhere. 752 00:33:45,624 --> 00:33:49,228 Walk or take a horse or a car, 753 00:33:49,328 --> 00:33:50,829 go anywhere and play. 754 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:52,531 It's true. 755 00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:53,932 I cannot do that with a piano. 756 00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,368 - Beethoven described it as a mini orchestra. 757 00:33:56,468 --> 00:33:59,071 It's one of the few polyphonic instruments 758 00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:00,139 that you can play. 759 00:34:00,239 --> 00:34:02,308 It's relatively easy to learn. 760 00:34:02,408 --> 00:34:05,077 Three chords and you can do a lot of your favorite songs. 761 00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:07,746 - Or you can take it to the Andres Segovia style 762 00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,216 and become a concert artist. 763 00:34:10,316 --> 00:34:12,751 - I think it's always been a rebel instrument 764 00:34:12,851 --> 00:34:14,019 because, 765 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,388 just because of the volume you can achieve quite easily. 766 00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,957 And there's nothing like plug it in, 767 00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:20,892 turn it up to ten and just, 768 00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:23,629 it makes great things sound amazing. 769 00:34:23,729 --> 00:34:25,063 - The guitars helped. 770 00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:28,834 But it's always the player that makes the sound great. 771 00:34:28,934 --> 00:34:32,571 - Bob Bogle and Don were very, very, very precise players. 772 00:34:32,671 --> 00:34:33,939 That's what impressed me the most. 773 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:35,607 I wanted to sound like that. 774 00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:44,015 Most guitar players connect the idea 775 00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:48,154 of the use of the vibrato arm on an electric guitar 776 00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:49,355 with The Ventures. 777 00:34:49,455 --> 00:34:51,757 - The whammy bar creates a pitch bend 778 00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:55,694 that gives a sense of like a shimmering wave, if you will. 779 00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:57,163 And it sound something like this. 780 00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:04,035 - Don said, okay, you do the melody with the tremolo arm 781 00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:05,103 and I'm going to do the rhythm. 782 00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:17,115 - Tremolo is similar to vibrato 783 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:18,417 but it's not the same thing. 784 00:35:18,517 --> 00:35:20,319 And people get this confused all the time. 785 00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:22,154 Instead of frequency, 786 00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:24,856 this is an amplitude or a volume change. 787 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:26,692 The one that's built into the amp 788 00:35:26,792 --> 00:35:29,094 sounds a lot like something I can do 789 00:35:29,195 --> 00:35:31,197 with just the volume control on the guitar. 790 00:35:42,874 --> 00:35:44,310 - Don and I would have a contest 791 00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:47,045 to see who could put the most reverb on our guitars. 792 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,113 It was just like little kids. 793 00:35:48,214 --> 00:35:50,148 - The sound of The Ventures, 794 00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:52,318 I think it has a lot to do with the reverb. 795 00:35:52,418 --> 00:35:54,386 It sounds like the sea. 796 00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:56,455 If you bang the reverb chamber, 797 00:35:56,555 --> 00:35:58,424 it sounds like crashing waves. 798 00:36:02,594 --> 00:36:03,429 - In the case of The Ventures, 799 00:36:03,529 --> 00:36:05,331 it was mostly spring reverb. 800 00:36:05,431 --> 00:36:07,399 For all you techno geeks out there, 801 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:10,135 the Hammond reverb pan, long spring. 802 00:36:10,236 --> 00:36:12,538 - So, this is what the reverb sounded like back then. 803 00:36:12,638 --> 00:36:14,506 This is from the reverb tank. 804 00:36:22,314 --> 00:36:26,418 - This is a reverb mechanism pulled out of an amplifier. 805 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:30,256 The guitar sound is fed in through here. 806 00:36:30,356 --> 00:36:32,524 It goes through a spring. 807 00:36:32,624 --> 00:36:35,894 And it's picked up here and fed back into the amplifier. 808 00:36:35,994 --> 00:36:38,830 And by the waving of this spring, the vibration, 809 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:40,098 it vibrates, 810 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:45,136 it modifies the sound in a immediately recognizable way. 811 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,172 - Surf bands claimed that it sounded like 812 00:36:47,273 --> 00:36:49,007 they were in the pipeline of a wave. 813 00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:50,008 - It's a sweet sound 814 00:36:50,108 --> 00:36:53,044 and it takes a lot more skill 815 00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:56,047 to play a guitar cleanly. 816 00:36:56,147 --> 00:36:57,249 - They call it the drip. 817 00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:59,217 I'm a rock-a-billy guitar player 818 00:36:59,318 --> 00:37:01,453 but I incorporate some of that stuff. 819 00:37:01,553 --> 00:37:04,089 But the real purist want to get the drip 820 00:37:04,189 --> 00:37:06,825 and that's achieved by putting the reverb tank 821 00:37:06,925 --> 00:37:08,394 before the amplifier. 822 00:37:20,205 --> 00:37:23,241 - Back in the '60s, effects were generally created 823 00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:24,976 with some pretty big boxes. 824 00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:28,146 So it wasn't such an easy process to incorporate them. 825 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:31,950 - I can't understate how many hours 826 00:37:32,050 --> 00:37:36,322 I stared at the album cover or the back cover, 827 00:37:36,422 --> 00:37:38,624 looking at their guitars 828 00:37:38,724 --> 00:37:41,059 and wondering how they got certain sounds. 829 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:42,994 - The engineer was experimenting too 830 00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:45,664 with trying to get different sounds and everything. 831 00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:47,366 They put speakers on the floor 832 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:49,134 and they cut speakers 833 00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:51,136 and they would turn things around. 834 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:52,704 - We did "Walk Don't Run '64" 835 00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:54,840 and you know, 836 00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:58,844 it sounds like it's a keyboard playing in there 837 00:37:58,944 --> 00:38:00,111 but actually what it is, 838 00:38:00,211 --> 00:38:02,180 and people are surprised at that, 839 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,151 it's a saxophone played through a Leslie speaker. 840 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,890 - If you look at "Silver Bells" off the Christmas album, 841 00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:14,292 there's a vocoder being used for the first time. 842 00:38:22,668 --> 00:38:25,537 These things were just remarkably innovative 843 00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:27,172 and experimental for their time. 844 00:38:27,272 --> 00:38:28,707 Nobody else was doing that. 845 00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:30,141 - The beginning of the song "Telstar", 846 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,711 in order to recreate what Joe Meek had done 847 00:38:32,811 --> 00:38:34,312 on the original with The Tornadoes, 848 00:38:34,413 --> 00:38:36,482 Don used a fire extinguisher to get that sound 849 00:38:36,582 --> 00:38:39,418 of the satellite taking off. 850 00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:45,491 - The Ventures were one of the first bands 851 00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:46,958 to use the fuzz box, 852 00:38:47,058 --> 00:38:49,661 although other people had used fuzz before. 853 00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:50,896 I think Paul Burlinson 854 00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:52,731 from Johnny Burnette's Rock 'n Roll Trio 855 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,199 punched holes in his, 856 00:38:54,299 --> 00:38:55,266 either punched holes in his speakers 857 00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:57,168 or rattled a tube in the, 858 00:38:57,268 --> 00:38:58,637 he rattled a tube in the back. 859 00:38:58,737 --> 00:39:02,073 But to reproduce that in a controllable environment 860 00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:03,742 is from a fuzz box. 861 00:39:06,044 --> 00:39:09,681 - It was created for them by a guy named Red Rhodes. 862 00:39:09,781 --> 00:39:11,383 He was a electronics wizard, 863 00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:13,852 as he was a steel guitarist. 864 00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:17,523 - If you never heard anything like that before, 865 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:19,190 like we hadn't, 866 00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:21,893 then you're thinking what does that sound like? 867 00:39:21,993 --> 00:39:26,865 And we thought, hm, sounds like a 2,000 pound bee to me. 868 00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:29,968 And so, we did parts one and two 869 00:39:30,068 --> 00:39:31,737 of "The 2,000 Pound Bee". 870 00:39:34,005 --> 00:39:35,941 - VH1 went on to state 871 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:37,709 that it was the first song ever recorded 872 00:39:37,809 --> 00:39:39,711 using a fuzz box guitar. 873 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:43,214 - I mean, that's a really, really early use of a fuzz tone. 874 00:39:43,314 --> 00:39:46,418 I mean, there's one or two right around the same time 875 00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:48,887 but The Ventures were right on that cutting edge 876 00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:51,389 and you're talking about five or six years 877 00:39:51,490 --> 00:39:54,593 before the psychedelic groups started using the fuzz tone. 878 00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:57,996 - Part B of "2,000 Pound Bee" became the first single 879 00:39:58,096 --> 00:40:00,566 to hit the Billboard chart using this fuzz tone. 880 00:40:05,937 --> 00:40:06,705 - The echo is great. 881 00:40:06,805 --> 00:40:08,339 The reverb is great. 882 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,642 They don't really even use a vibratos really, you know. 883 00:40:10,742 --> 00:40:11,643 They were just playing. 884 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:14,079 - When we first started, 885 00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:16,982 after about three years we had a record producer 886 00:40:17,082 --> 00:40:19,485 that was helping us produce the records. 887 00:40:19,585 --> 00:40:21,252 We told him that we were, 888 00:40:21,352 --> 00:40:23,655 felt like we were running out of ideas 889 00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:25,991 and he said, well, one idea 890 00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:28,727 is to find more sounds in that guitar. 891 00:40:28,827 --> 00:40:30,629 He said, there's sounds in that guitar 892 00:40:30,729 --> 00:40:32,230 you've never found yet. 893 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:33,231 He was right. 894 00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:36,401 We kept trying and finding more techniques. 895 00:40:36,502 --> 00:40:38,737 - A lot of stuff was just Nokie and his hands. 896 00:40:38,837 --> 00:40:41,940 I mean, Nokie did all kinds of what you would call tricks 897 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,742 but to the people in the audience it was like, 898 00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:45,310 whoa, how are you doing that, you know. 899 00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:48,279 There's a record where he's doing this with his pick 900 00:40:50,882 --> 00:40:53,218 - In "Diamond Head" that little sound you hear, 901 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,193 is Nokie rubbing fingernail on the strings. 902 00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,896 - In "Wooly Bully" he would pick behind the bridge 903 00:41:04,996 --> 00:41:06,798 where you're not suppose to play over here 904 00:41:06,898 --> 00:41:07,666 and he would 905 00:41:19,477 --> 00:41:20,546 - Probably one of the reasons 906 00:41:20,646 --> 00:41:22,748 why they influenced surf bands so much 907 00:41:22,848 --> 00:41:24,650 is because they were good at playing 908 00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:26,417 quarter notes and eighth notes 909 00:41:26,518 --> 00:41:29,521 in very, very, very strict time. 910 00:41:29,621 --> 00:41:31,790 You can't drive a song 911 00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:35,727 unless you have a rhythm guitar player like Don Wilson, 912 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:39,197 who can play very, very, very straight ahead eighth notes. 913 00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:40,766 - And he would do double picking 914 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:42,400 or really fast picking 915 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:43,702 but with he reverb sound 916 00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:45,403 he had sort of this percussive thing 917 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:46,404 that he loved so much. 918 00:41:59,651 --> 00:42:02,754 - So, they actually created the sound, 919 00:42:02,854 --> 00:42:03,922 I believe, 920 00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,424 that surf bands then reached out for 921 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,393 and it became their own. 922 00:42:10,228 --> 00:42:12,097 - Growing up in southern California 923 00:42:12,197 --> 00:42:14,165 in my early teens, I had a surf board. 924 00:42:14,265 --> 00:42:15,567 And when you're riding the waves, man, 925 00:42:15,667 --> 00:42:17,903 that was the sound track that's going through your head. 926 00:42:18,003 --> 00:42:20,806 - The Ventures will be remembered forever 927 00:42:20,906 --> 00:42:25,276 for creating a culture in southern California 928 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:26,144 of surf music 929 00:42:26,244 --> 00:42:28,046 and they started it. 930 00:42:28,146 --> 00:42:29,014 Not consciously. 931 00:42:29,114 --> 00:42:30,749 It was a happy accident. 932 00:42:30,849 --> 00:42:32,784 - You know, I like surf music. 933 00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:33,919 I think it's exciting 934 00:42:34,019 --> 00:42:35,621 and I like to play it. 935 00:42:36,788 --> 00:42:38,824 It's fun to play on stage. 936 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,061 - One of the staples of surf songs 937 00:42:43,161 --> 00:42:45,196 is the so called rundown. 938 00:42:45,296 --> 00:42:46,698 And it sounds something like this. 939 00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:54,539 - Bob on the bass actually came up with that rundown. 940 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,708 You know, that was the . 941 00:42:56,808 --> 00:42:58,409 - I don't think anybody had ever heard 942 00:43:00,646 --> 00:43:01,713 that. 943 00:43:06,852 --> 00:43:10,021 In the solo of "Barracuda" by Heart 944 00:43:10,121 --> 00:43:11,589 I do that. 945 00:43:18,764 --> 00:43:21,399 - We decided that we're going to move 946 00:43:21,499 --> 00:43:23,601 to Los Angeles and Hollywood 947 00:43:23,702 --> 00:43:27,038 because we wanted to be where it was happening. 948 00:43:27,138 --> 00:43:29,607 And we stayed in a motel 949 00:43:29,708 --> 00:43:32,177 right across the street from Liberty Records. 950 00:43:32,277 --> 00:43:34,780 They had a lot of studios there 951 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,281 and we wanted to record. 952 00:43:36,381 --> 00:43:38,316 And Bob Reisdorff said, 953 00:43:38,416 --> 00:43:41,920 you've got such a good sound with Joe Boles, 954 00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:44,522 I want you to go back up to Washington 955 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:45,356 and record there. 956 00:43:45,456 --> 00:43:46,457 So, we did. 957 00:43:47,225 --> 00:43:49,127 And then he said it again the second time 958 00:43:49,227 --> 00:43:51,963 and we're thinking, oh, I want to record here. 959 00:43:52,063 --> 00:43:53,631 But he said, no, go ahead and go up there 960 00:43:53,732 --> 00:43:55,266 because he's got your sound down. 961 00:43:55,366 --> 00:43:57,002 You don't want to change too much of you sound 962 00:43:57,102 --> 00:43:59,637 from what "Walk Don't Run" sounds like. 963 00:43:59,738 --> 00:44:01,406 So, we did it again. 964 00:44:01,506 --> 00:44:04,776 - Back in the '60s they would do four or more albums a year. 965 00:44:04,876 --> 00:44:06,678 - We put so many albums out 966 00:44:06,778 --> 00:44:10,949 that we had five albums on the top 100 at one time. 967 00:44:11,049 --> 00:44:12,851 - They were the sixth best selling band 968 00:44:12,951 --> 00:44:15,186 behind The Beatles, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, 969 00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:16,688 Johnny Mathis, Herb Alpert. 970 00:44:20,125 --> 00:44:22,928 - Yeah, Bob Reisdorff said, most artists, 971 00:44:23,028 --> 00:44:26,297 you're probably good for, at the most, 972 00:44:26,397 --> 00:44:29,534 maybe three, four albums and that's about it. 973 00:44:29,634 --> 00:44:30,601 He says, I suggest 974 00:44:30,702 --> 00:44:32,470 that you really put your money in the bank 975 00:44:32,570 --> 00:44:33,939 and save whatever you get. 976 00:44:35,273 --> 00:44:36,541 And of course, we didn't. 977 00:44:37,876 --> 00:44:40,812 To prove his thinking, 978 00:44:40,912 --> 00:44:45,016 he sold The Ventures after about maybe six albums 979 00:44:45,116 --> 00:44:46,417 or something like that, 980 00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:48,286 to Liberty Records. 981 00:44:48,386 --> 00:44:51,890 I've never heard anything about his complaining about that 982 00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:55,026 but we kept on selling and selling and selling 983 00:44:55,126 --> 00:44:57,695 and it was a bad move on his part. 984 00:44:57,796 --> 00:45:01,566 We were responsible for 25% 985 00:45:01,666 --> 00:45:05,837 of Liberty's total volume of record sales. 986 00:45:05,937 --> 00:45:07,205 That's when we kind of knew, 987 00:45:07,305 --> 00:45:10,508 hey, maybe we're going somewhere. 988 00:45:10,608 --> 00:45:12,677 They had some pretty good artists, you know. 989 00:45:12,778 --> 00:45:14,712 They had the Chipmunks. 990 00:45:14,813 --> 00:45:15,814 I mean, come on. 991 00:45:15,914 --> 00:45:18,049 - For decades they were just like this machine 992 00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:19,517 that could not be stopped. 993 00:45:19,617 --> 00:45:23,388 - They recorded so many records, it's insane. 994 00:45:23,488 --> 00:45:25,623 I don't even know if anyone's done that before, 995 00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:26,624 have they? 996 00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:27,926 200 records? 997 00:45:28,026 --> 00:45:29,694 - And the thing about The Ventures is, 998 00:45:29,795 --> 00:45:31,662 they'd have a surf album. 999 00:45:31,763 --> 00:45:33,064 They would have a soundtrack album 1000 00:45:33,164 --> 00:45:34,933 where they're doing movie soundtracks. 1001 00:45:35,033 --> 00:45:37,735 One of my favorites is The Ventures country and western. 1002 00:45:37,836 --> 00:45:40,638 - I think one thing that resonates with The Ventures 1003 00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:42,240 is they're a versatile band. 1004 00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:43,975 They can play anything they want to play. 1005 00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:47,245 - Whatever kind of my that I wanted to play, 1006 00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:51,316 you could sort of get the origin of that 1007 00:45:51,416 --> 00:45:53,284 within a Ventures' instrumental. 1008 00:45:53,384 --> 00:45:54,619 You know, if you wanted to play rock-a-billy, 1009 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,354 if you wanted to play country, 1010 00:45:56,454 --> 00:45:57,755 if you wanted to play blues, 1011 00:45:57,856 --> 00:46:01,159 if you wanted to play psychedelic rock, 1012 00:46:01,259 --> 00:46:04,662 there was some Ventures' instrumental that you could learn. 1013 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:07,866 - Probably the third or fourth album we did 1014 00:46:07,966 --> 00:46:10,735 was "The Colorful Ventures". 1015 00:46:10,836 --> 00:46:15,640 And we had songs that had color. 1016 00:46:15,740 --> 00:46:18,309 - Well, they'll be remembered in our house 1017 00:46:18,409 --> 00:46:19,410 with their Christmas record 1018 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:20,812 because we know it's Christmas 1019 00:46:20,912 --> 00:46:23,514 when we put that Ventures' record on for Christmas time. 1020 00:46:25,050 --> 00:46:27,452 - We had a classical album. 1021 00:46:30,488 --> 00:46:34,292 And we had 35 musicians playing behind us. 1022 00:46:34,392 --> 00:46:35,660 One time we thought, you know, 1023 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,962 we're going to do a disco album, 1024 00:46:41,466 --> 00:46:43,468 which, I mean as far as I'm concerned, 1025 00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:46,337 Venture fans really scoffed at. 1026 00:46:46,437 --> 00:46:49,207 - Oh yeah, they did disco. 1027 00:46:49,307 --> 00:46:51,742 So, we won't talk about the disco era. 1028 00:46:51,843 --> 00:46:53,778 - They permeate every aspect of life. 1029 00:46:53,879 --> 00:46:54,880 I mean, there's something 1030 00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:56,747 for every emotion that they've got. 1031 00:46:56,848 --> 00:47:01,920 And I think that their songs will live on for that reason. 1032 00:47:09,527 --> 00:47:12,797 - When we just, 1033 00:47:12,898 --> 00:47:14,065 like what I said before, 1034 00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,334 we kind of ran out of ideas. 1035 00:47:16,434 --> 00:47:18,636 We thought, let's get a keyboard in there. 1036 00:47:18,736 --> 00:47:23,208 And so, we had a girl playing keyboard for us to begin with. 1037 00:47:23,308 --> 00:47:24,809 We hired Hal Blaine, 1038 00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:27,178 which he was with The Wrecking Crew 1039 00:47:27,278 --> 00:47:29,647 and he got triple scale 1040 00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:32,450 and we had him play the tambourine. 1041 00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:33,751 Can you believe that? 1042 00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:37,822 Carol Kaye also played the bass one time. 1043 00:47:37,923 --> 00:47:41,626 I had a neighbor in the '60s a couple of houses away from me 1044 00:47:41,726 --> 00:47:44,362 and his name was Glen Campbell. 1045 00:47:44,462 --> 00:47:45,997 And I got to know him 1046 00:47:46,097 --> 00:47:50,801 and I said, would you like to play some music with us. 1047 00:47:50,902 --> 00:47:52,837 And he said, oh, I'd love it. 1048 00:47:52,938 --> 00:47:55,740 So, we used him three or four times. 1049 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,743 Tommy Allsup was the guitar player 1050 00:47:58,843 --> 00:48:00,711 for Buddy Holly and The Crickets. 1051 00:48:00,811 --> 00:48:02,180 He played a couple songs too. 1052 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,251 - I performed "Secret Agent Man" with The Ventures 1053 00:48:06,351 --> 00:48:08,719 on the anniversary show. 1054 00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:11,957 And it was amazing to be part of that. 1055 00:48:12,057 --> 00:48:15,426 I felt like I was in with the guys. 1056 00:48:15,526 --> 00:48:16,561 I was part of the gang, 1057 00:48:16,661 --> 00:48:17,695 the surf gang. 1058 00:48:17,795 --> 00:48:19,330 If there's such a thing. 1059 00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:22,400 - Billy Bob Thornton was a big, big fan. 1060 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:23,834 - I was about to make an album. 1061 00:48:23,935 --> 00:48:25,403 It was before the Boxmasters. 1062 00:48:25,503 --> 00:48:28,706 We were doing a solo record of mine. 1063 00:48:28,806 --> 00:48:29,707 I'd had this idea. 1064 00:48:29,807 --> 00:48:33,444 I said, why don't I just use The Ventures 1065 00:48:33,544 --> 00:48:34,745 to make the record with? 1066 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,683 It was such an honor getting to know those guys. 1067 00:48:38,783 --> 00:48:40,718 Since then, I've kept up with them a lot. 1068 00:48:40,818 --> 00:48:42,954 I still have all of that stuff. 1069 00:48:44,122 --> 00:48:47,692 So, one of these days I'm going to put it together 1070 00:48:47,792 --> 00:48:49,360 and maybe put it out, you know, 1071 00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:51,296 as me with The Ventures. 1072 00:48:56,467 --> 00:48:58,636 - Gerry McGee joined the band in the late '60s 1073 00:48:58,736 --> 00:49:00,471 when Nokie went on his sabbatical. 1074 00:49:00,571 --> 00:49:03,808 - Gerry was a real well-rounded guitar player. 1075 00:49:03,908 --> 00:49:05,310 I mean, really good. 1076 00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:07,678 - Gerry played with greats like Bobby Darin, 1077 00:49:07,778 --> 00:49:10,715 Delaney and Bonnie, Kris Kristofferson, Elvis. 1078 00:49:10,815 --> 00:49:14,852 - He did an album with The Monkees. 1079 00:49:14,952 --> 00:49:17,922 Before they played instruments themselves, 1080 00:49:18,023 --> 00:49:19,890 he did a lot of the guitar work. 1081 00:49:19,991 --> 00:49:21,826 - His sound was different. 1082 00:49:21,926 --> 00:49:23,461 But it was always within the bounds 1083 00:49:23,561 --> 00:49:24,996 of what The Ventures sound was 1084 00:49:25,096 --> 00:49:26,597 and it always has worked. 1085 00:49:26,697 --> 00:49:29,467 - I'll never forget sitting in the control room 1086 00:49:29,567 --> 00:49:31,502 with Gerry McGee. 1087 00:49:31,602 --> 00:49:33,238 He was about to play something 1088 00:49:33,338 --> 00:49:35,473 and I said, where's your whammy bar? 1089 00:49:35,573 --> 00:49:37,842 He said, I never used a whammy bar in my life. 1090 00:49:37,942 --> 00:49:39,410 I said, you can make that thing 1091 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:41,479 jiggle that much without one? 1092 00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:42,713 He said, oh yeah. 1093 00:49:42,813 --> 00:49:44,849 We always did it that way. 1094 00:49:44,949 --> 00:49:47,918 So, I learned little things about them, 1095 00:49:48,019 --> 00:49:51,156 about their guitar technique and all that kind of thing. 1096 00:49:54,425 --> 00:49:56,927 - Somebody came to us with an idea 1097 00:49:57,028 --> 00:49:59,130 called Guitar Phonics. 1098 00:49:59,230 --> 00:50:00,298 And they said, you know, 1099 00:50:00,398 --> 00:50:03,068 there's a lot of people learning off of your music 1100 00:50:03,168 --> 00:50:06,737 and I think you guys should put out an instruction album 1101 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:08,005 where you play the song 1102 00:50:08,106 --> 00:50:10,275 and you explain what you're doing with it 1103 00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:11,976 and the notes that you're playing. 1104 00:50:12,077 --> 00:50:15,146 The first one hit the charts, the Top 100s. 1105 00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:17,082 We decided we'd do a couple more 1106 00:50:17,182 --> 00:50:19,117 and those two hit the charts too. 1107 00:50:19,217 --> 00:50:21,452 So, we had three instruction albums 1108 00:50:21,552 --> 00:50:23,054 on the Top 100 of Billboards. 1109 00:50:23,154 --> 00:50:25,290 We had some kind of magic. 1110 00:50:25,390 --> 00:50:26,824 We wanted it. 1111 00:50:26,924 --> 00:50:27,792 And you've got to want it. 1112 00:50:27,892 --> 00:50:31,096 There's not that many instrumentals 1113 00:50:31,196 --> 00:50:33,998 that you can take and put on an album, 1114 00:50:34,099 --> 00:50:37,768 so we use to take vocals and Venturize them. 1115 00:50:37,868 --> 00:50:39,570 - The Ventures are known for, 1116 00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:40,671 not being a cover band, 1117 00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,774 but for being interpreters of a generation. 1118 00:50:43,874 --> 00:50:46,644 Every time a musical genre would change, 1119 00:50:46,744 --> 00:50:49,747 they would do their own version of the songs. 1120 00:50:49,847 --> 00:50:52,083 - They were imagineering, you might say. 1121 00:50:52,183 --> 00:50:53,784 So, let's say they were doing 1122 00:50:55,019 --> 00:50:58,189 a song that had been a hit on the radio 1123 00:50:58,289 --> 00:50:59,590 that had saxophone. 1124 00:50:59,690 --> 00:51:03,094 Rather than imitating the lines that the saxophone played, 1125 00:51:03,194 --> 00:51:05,430 they would figure out some other interesting thing 1126 00:51:05,530 --> 00:51:06,297 to play there, 1127 00:51:06,397 --> 00:51:08,566 like arpeggio with chords 1128 00:51:08,666 --> 00:51:09,667 or maybe 1129 00:51:10,735 --> 00:51:12,670 doing a rhythm thing with the chords. 1130 00:51:12,770 --> 00:51:13,738 - When you're a musician, 1131 00:51:13,838 --> 00:51:15,906 to play a cover of someone else's songs, 1132 00:51:16,006 --> 00:51:19,477 you better be damn good. 1133 00:51:19,577 --> 00:51:20,578 You better be damn good 1134 00:51:20,678 --> 00:51:23,581 because you've got to be better then the original. 1135 00:51:23,681 --> 00:51:25,816 - All the cover songs that they did, 1136 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:26,817 as well as their own, 1137 00:51:26,917 --> 00:51:28,586 really have their own stamp on it 1138 00:51:28,686 --> 00:51:31,055 and I think it's such a unique sound. 1139 00:51:42,367 --> 00:51:45,603 - If it was "Snoopy and the Red Barron" or a disco track 1140 00:51:45,703 --> 00:51:48,139 or a film soundtrack, 1141 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,006 anything that was popular, 1142 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:50,408 they'd do their own version. 1143 00:51:50,508 --> 00:51:52,177 - So, people kind of thought that songs 1144 00:51:52,277 --> 00:51:55,146 like "Pipeline" and "Wipeout" were Ventures' songs, 1145 00:51:55,246 --> 00:51:57,047 even though they weren't, originally. 1146 00:51:57,148 --> 00:51:57,982 In that regard, 1147 00:51:58,082 --> 00:52:00,251 The Ventures kind of road the crest 1148 00:52:00,351 --> 00:52:01,919 of this instrumental music wave 1149 00:52:02,019 --> 00:52:03,888 as the best known group in America 1150 00:52:03,988 --> 00:52:05,290 that did instrumental songs 1151 00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:07,825 and became almost like a generic term, 1152 00:52:07,925 --> 00:52:09,727 like Kleenex, you know. 1153 00:52:09,827 --> 00:52:12,463 - When they covered film soundtrack stuff, 1154 00:52:12,563 --> 00:52:15,132 it becomes almost the iconic version. 1155 00:52:15,233 --> 00:52:17,568 - I have to congratulate them 1156 00:52:17,668 --> 00:52:21,906 because they captured the energy and the vigor of my music. 1157 00:52:22,473 --> 00:52:24,375 - We had an engineer 1158 00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:26,277 and he came to Mel one time 1159 00:52:26,377 --> 00:52:29,280 and he said, I just did some engineering 1160 00:52:29,380 --> 00:52:31,749 to do the music for "Hawaii Five-O". 1161 00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:33,351 And he said that the writer, 1162 00:52:33,451 --> 00:52:35,720 who is Mort Stevens, 1163 00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:40,157 only has a 30 second version of it just for the show. 1164 00:52:40,258 --> 00:52:42,693 And he does not plan on doing a longer version 1165 00:52:42,793 --> 00:52:44,395 or putting it out. 1166 00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:47,097 And so, he said, I think you guys should put it out. 1167 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,775 We did the "Hawaii Five-O" video 1168 00:52:57,875 --> 00:53:00,245 and we did it out in the Mojave Desert 1169 00:53:00,345 --> 00:53:02,046 on a dried up lake. 1170 00:53:02,146 --> 00:53:04,849 That was kind of our last hurrah, let's say, 1171 00:53:04,949 --> 00:53:06,517 in the U.S. 1172 00:53:06,617 --> 00:53:08,919 "Hawaii Five-O" was a single hit. 1173 00:53:09,987 --> 00:53:12,156 But we continued to sell albums, 1174 00:53:12,257 --> 00:53:14,525 especially in Japan. 1175 00:53:14,625 --> 00:53:17,094 - America seems to go in and out of trends 1176 00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:19,297 and then they come back to them later. 1177 00:53:19,397 --> 00:53:21,232 But The Ventures have been popular in Japan 1178 00:53:21,332 --> 00:53:22,099 since the beginning. 1179 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:23,401 Still are to this day. 1180 00:53:23,501 --> 00:53:27,905 - We started going to Japan in 1962, was the first time. 1181 00:53:31,376 --> 00:53:35,280 We were the opening act with Bobby Vee 1182 00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:38,082 and a girl named Joanne Campbell. 1183 00:53:38,182 --> 00:53:40,718 And they were more listening to their own music, 1184 00:53:40,818 --> 00:53:43,020 which was a the time call enka. 1185 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,356 - Enka is Japanese Blues. 1186 00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:47,558 Something like . 1187 00:53:55,766 --> 00:53:59,537 So, it was easy for Japanese people to understand 1188 00:53:59,637 --> 00:54:02,540 and easy to feel the melody. 1189 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,577 It almost sounds like Japanese people are playing the music. 1190 00:54:06,677 --> 00:54:10,147 - And when we came about with guitars and electric guitars 1191 00:54:10,247 --> 00:54:13,217 and we started a guitar boom. 1192 00:54:13,318 --> 00:54:14,752 - When Don does his rundown, 1193 00:54:14,852 --> 00:54:16,754 it's ticky ticky ticky san. 1194 00:54:27,898 --> 00:54:32,670 - The second time we came there was in 1964. 1195 00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:35,973 We landed in Haneda Airport. 1196 00:54:36,073 --> 00:54:38,609 There were people on the roof of the terminal 1197 00:54:38,709 --> 00:54:40,244 and all, you know. 1198 00:54:40,345 --> 00:54:41,245 I thought for a second, 1199 00:54:41,346 --> 00:54:43,448 who is on this airplane for God's sake? 1200 00:54:43,548 --> 00:54:47,184 It must be the President or the Emperor or somebody. 1201 00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:49,487 We get closer and they had all kinds of signs 1202 00:54:49,587 --> 00:54:51,722 that said, welcome The Ventures. 1203 00:54:51,822 --> 00:54:54,091 They wanted to pull us into a room 1204 00:54:54,191 --> 00:54:58,696 for radio and TV and all that right away first thing. 1205 00:54:58,796 --> 00:55:01,165 Then when we left to go out to get in the car, 1206 00:55:01,265 --> 00:55:02,400 our fans were out there. 1207 00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:06,203 They were ripping at our clothes and everything, you know. 1208 00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:08,739 You couldn't leave the hotel room. 1209 00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:11,275 Maybe 100 people out there waiting. 1210 00:55:15,045 --> 00:55:17,181 - The Japanese were just developing 1211 00:55:17,281 --> 00:55:19,016 an interest in American culture 1212 00:55:19,116 --> 00:55:23,053 and at that time, English was not as common as it was today. 1213 00:55:23,153 --> 00:55:26,391 - The Ventures music had no language barrier. 1214 00:55:26,491 --> 00:55:30,995 It was so simple for Japanese people to just listen. 1215 00:55:31,095 --> 00:55:32,863 - They were attracted to the feeling. 1216 00:55:32,963 --> 00:55:35,900 - "Walk Don't Run" doesn't say walk don't run in the lyrics. 1217 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,703 So, you just make up your own interpretation of that. 1218 00:55:38,803 --> 00:55:40,971 - Music is a universal language. 1219 00:55:43,541 --> 00:55:45,209 - It was Venture mania then. 1220 00:55:45,309 --> 00:55:47,945 And a lot of mothers and fathers 1221 00:55:48,045 --> 00:55:49,880 tired to keep us out of the country. 1222 00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:53,250 All that did was make the kids want to see us more. 1223 00:55:58,656 --> 00:56:03,528 We turned out selling about 40 million records 1224 00:56:03,628 --> 00:56:05,996 in Japan alone. 1225 00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:08,032 Our same record company had The Beatles 1226 00:56:08,132 --> 00:56:09,634 when The Beatles came out. 1227 00:56:09,734 --> 00:56:11,101 And so, I know this for a fact. 1228 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:14,338 Not only did we outsell The Beatles in Japan, 1229 00:56:15,406 --> 00:56:17,141 but we outsold them two to one. 1230 00:56:17,241 --> 00:56:20,978 - They went to Japan in 1962 for the first time. 1231 00:56:21,979 --> 00:56:24,415 This is before The Beatles. 1232 00:56:24,515 --> 00:56:26,984 They went to Japan in 1966. 1233 00:56:27,084 --> 00:56:30,187 Then all the bands started going into Japan, 1234 00:56:30,287 --> 00:56:32,923 Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and so on. 1235 00:56:33,023 --> 00:56:35,359 - The success in Japan was incredible. 1236 00:56:36,260 --> 00:56:40,831 - We did 108 shows in 78 days 1237 00:56:40,931 --> 00:56:42,567 without a day off. 1238 00:56:42,667 --> 00:56:46,437 - It's been 60 years ever since The Ventures came out. 1239 00:56:46,537 --> 00:56:51,075 And The Ventures did more than 22,000 shows in Japan. 1240 00:56:51,175 --> 00:56:54,745 - We started writing songs strictly for Japan. 1241 00:56:54,845 --> 00:56:59,049 Really listening to what they did in buying their records 1242 00:56:59,149 --> 00:57:00,184 and listening to them 1243 00:57:00,284 --> 00:57:02,920 and seeing what kind of sounds they had 1244 00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:05,255 and what appealed to them. 1245 00:57:05,355 --> 00:57:09,594 - The Ventures did collaborations with the Japanese singers 1246 00:57:09,694 --> 00:57:12,597 and also, they came up with the Japanese titles, 1247 00:57:12,697 --> 00:57:15,365 such as "Ginza Lights", 1248 00:57:15,466 --> 00:57:19,670 "Hokkaido Skies" and "The Kyoto Dolls". 1249 00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:20,971 - You know, they toured Japan 1250 00:57:21,071 --> 00:57:22,640 and you see people who were fans of theirs 1251 00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:23,841 when they were kids 1252 00:57:23,941 --> 00:57:26,376 but you also see people who, 1253 00:57:26,477 --> 00:57:30,280 young people there who know the legend of The Ventures. 1254 00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:31,682 - They'll never die in Japan. 1255 00:57:31,782 --> 00:57:33,884 - Japanese people love The Ventures. 1256 00:57:33,984 --> 00:57:35,419 - Playing in front of a Japanese audience 1257 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,154 I got to feel what The Ventures felt. 1258 00:57:37,254 --> 00:57:39,289 They were super enthusiastic. 1259 00:57:42,092 --> 00:57:43,360 - I love The Ventures. 1260 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,228 - Teke teke wah. 1261 00:57:44,328 --> 00:57:45,963 - I love The Ventures. 1262 00:58:05,115 --> 00:58:10,120 - The Ventures performed at Kohaku back in 1991. 1263 00:58:10,688 --> 00:58:14,091 Kohaku is a major music event. 1264 00:58:14,191 --> 00:58:18,162 It happens in the end of the year. 1265 00:58:18,262 --> 00:58:20,765 In order to to perform for Kohaku 1266 00:58:20,865 --> 00:58:22,366 you have to have a hit song 1267 00:58:22,466 --> 00:58:24,669 or you have to be very popular. 1268 00:58:24,769 --> 00:58:27,538 The Ventures were not just popular 1269 00:58:27,638 --> 00:58:30,107 but it is part of our Japanese culture now. 1270 00:58:34,178 --> 00:58:36,146 - There were no guitar groups in Japan. 1271 00:58:37,281 --> 00:58:39,984 And now, when we go over to Japan, 1272 00:58:41,586 --> 00:58:43,888 and have been for the last 20 years, 1273 00:58:46,456 --> 00:58:50,527 there's The Hiroshima Ventures, The Tokyo Ventures, 1274 00:58:50,628 --> 00:58:54,632 The Osaka Ventures, The Sapporo Ventures. 1275 00:58:54,732 --> 00:58:57,201 Every city in Japan has a Ventures. 1276 00:58:57,301 --> 00:59:01,639 - Not just the big cities like Tokyo or Osaka. 1277 00:59:01,739 --> 00:59:04,274 You just go to any cities in Japan 1278 00:59:04,374 --> 00:59:09,346 and you're going to always find Ventures tribute bands. 1279 00:59:09,647 --> 00:59:12,282 - When I see them I get a kick out of it. 1280 00:59:12,382 --> 00:59:14,685 They watch us so closely, 1281 00:59:14,785 --> 00:59:15,620 even on stage, 1282 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,055 that they're doing whatever we do. 1283 00:59:18,155 --> 00:59:23,160 - So, the Japanese took The Ventures into their hearts 1284 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,564 and no matter what was going on in the rest of the world, 1285 00:59:27,665 --> 00:59:31,201 The Ventures always were welcome in Japan. 1286 00:59:31,301 --> 00:59:33,003 Welcome is an understatement. 1287 00:59:34,471 --> 00:59:36,506 - When they become your fan, 1288 00:59:36,607 --> 00:59:38,542 it's your fan for life. 1289 00:59:38,643 --> 00:59:40,611 So, I look at it like, 1290 00:59:40,711 --> 00:59:42,279 if they're my, 1291 00:59:42,379 --> 00:59:43,914 they're loyal to me. 1292 00:59:44,014 --> 00:59:45,582 Now I'm their fan too. 1293 00:59:53,323 --> 00:59:55,492 - John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd 1294 00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:58,028 created the unforgettable killer bee characters 1295 00:59:58,128 --> 01:00:00,097 on Saturday Night Live in the '70s. 1296 01:00:00,197 --> 01:00:03,367 The story goes that one day they were walking along a beach 1297 01:00:03,467 --> 01:00:04,935 and talking about their debts. 1298 01:00:05,035 --> 01:00:06,937 And at the same time they were listening 1299 01:00:07,037 --> 01:00:07,972 to a tape by The Ventures, 1300 01:00:08,072 --> 01:00:09,674 "The 2,000 Pound Bee". 1301 01:00:09,774 --> 01:00:13,443 - So, they made a pact, whoever dies first, 1302 01:00:13,543 --> 01:00:14,812 the other one will play 1303 01:00:14,912 --> 01:00:18,348 "The 2,000 Pound Bee" at the funeral. 1304 01:00:18,448 --> 01:00:20,550 John Belushi passed away. 1305 01:00:20,651 --> 01:00:24,789 Dan Aykroyd held up a portable radio 1306 01:00:24,889 --> 01:00:29,894 and the sounds of The Ventures filled St. John's The Divine. 1307 01:00:33,530 --> 01:00:37,034 We've had a lot of things in movies, our songs, 1308 01:00:38,468 --> 01:00:42,606 and on TV, commercials and things. 1309 01:00:42,707 --> 01:00:47,778 - Tarantino decided to put a song in "Pulp Fiction". 1310 01:00:47,878 --> 01:00:50,147 - And that song was called "Surf Rider". 1311 01:00:50,247 --> 01:00:51,181 - It was something that 1312 01:00:51,281 --> 01:00:53,818 when he was a kid learning to play guitar, 1313 01:00:53,918 --> 01:00:54,952 he learned that song. 1314 01:00:55,052 --> 01:00:57,387 Well, it stuck with him all those years. 1315 01:01:18,709 --> 01:01:20,510 - There's me as a 20 year old 1316 01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:23,714 as a gun toting surfing bad girl. 1317 01:01:23,814 --> 01:01:28,786 - Our fans were use to seeing pretty models on our covers. 1318 01:01:29,319 --> 01:01:31,621 We had quite a few. 1319 01:01:31,722 --> 01:01:35,259 And I like those too. 1320 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:36,660 - The vinyls appealed to me 1321 01:01:36,761 --> 01:01:38,495 because they had really groovy looking 1322 01:01:38,595 --> 01:01:40,364 hot chicks on the cover, 1323 01:01:40,464 --> 01:01:42,532 colorful, happy. 1324 01:01:42,632 --> 01:01:45,836 - The females on the album covers for The Ventures 1325 01:01:45,936 --> 01:01:47,337 were rad. 1326 01:01:47,437 --> 01:01:52,209 They were so sexy and self-contained and confident 1327 01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:56,380 and they were absolutely a part of the music. 1328 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,549 - Half the time I'd pick out the records by the covers. 1329 01:01:59,649 --> 01:02:02,386 And The Ventures had the coolest covers. 1330 01:02:02,486 --> 01:02:05,923 Once I started seeing covers like this, 1331 01:02:06,023 --> 01:02:08,793 and then when you opened it up like this, 1332 01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:12,897 I mean, this was like everything I was aspiring to. 1333 01:02:12,997 --> 01:02:14,664 - Back then in the early '60s 1334 01:02:14,765 --> 01:02:16,100 there was no social media. 1335 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,235 The way that you discovered who they were 1336 01:02:18,335 --> 01:02:20,070 and how they created that music 1337 01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:21,839 were the album jackets. 1338 01:02:21,939 --> 01:02:24,041 - I think it was a really neat and fun way 1339 01:02:24,141 --> 01:02:26,376 to market themselves. 1340 01:02:26,476 --> 01:02:30,247 And it's super fun to collect all of their albums 1341 01:02:30,347 --> 01:02:31,315 because of this. 1342 01:02:31,415 --> 01:02:32,917 - Yeah, I think pretty unique for the time too. 1343 01:02:33,017 --> 01:02:34,451 - Grab the eye, you know, 1344 01:02:34,551 --> 01:02:37,654 and once they played what they played 1345 01:02:37,754 --> 01:02:38,956 it grabbed the ear, 1346 01:02:39,056 --> 01:02:40,090 so that was good. 1347 01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:46,596 - In the 70s, rock n' roll itself 1348 01:02:46,696 --> 01:02:48,899 kind of died a little bit. 1349 01:02:48,999 --> 01:02:52,469 It had gone from being something really cool and really fun 1350 01:02:52,569 --> 01:02:57,574 to these '70s rock stars with their excessive habits. 1351 01:02:58,075 --> 01:03:00,210 - In the '80s a lot of people 1352 01:03:00,310 --> 01:03:04,714 started to reinvestigate their early tones 1353 01:03:04,815 --> 01:03:07,584 because some of those clean guitar tones were, 1354 01:03:07,684 --> 01:03:10,554 there's a purity to it, an honesty 1355 01:03:10,654 --> 01:03:13,490 that got lost with all the effects and distortion 1356 01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:16,994 and some of the over technical playing. 1357 01:03:17,094 --> 01:03:20,697 - Rodney Bingenheimer started basically, KROQ, 1358 01:03:20,797 --> 01:03:26,436 as Rodney on the ROQ playing new bands in 1976. 1359 01:03:26,536 --> 01:03:28,605 The radio station would say, 1360 01:03:28,705 --> 01:03:31,808 you can't play music from the '60s anymore. 1361 01:03:33,878 --> 01:03:35,479 - The Ventures had never stopped 1362 01:03:35,579 --> 01:03:37,915 because of their popularity in Japan, 1363 01:03:39,449 --> 01:03:41,251 so they were still around. 1364 01:03:41,351 --> 01:03:42,987 - Some kids, like punk rockers, 1365 01:03:43,087 --> 01:03:45,222 started calling into the radio station to say, 1366 01:03:45,322 --> 01:03:49,259 who's that new wave group called The Ventures? 1367 01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:52,262 And these are kids that had never heard of us 1368 01:03:52,362 --> 01:03:53,797 or didn't know at all. 1369 01:03:53,898 --> 01:03:56,566 But they thought we were something new. 1370 01:03:56,666 --> 01:03:58,035 - They would send these letters saying, 1371 01:03:58,135 --> 01:04:00,604 we're like The Ventures meets this meets this 1372 01:04:00,704 --> 01:04:02,239 but we're also like punk rock. 1373 01:04:02,339 --> 01:04:05,342 - Punk rock kind of brought rock and roll back, 1374 01:04:05,442 --> 01:04:07,177 the original spirit of rock and roll. 1375 01:04:07,277 --> 01:04:09,846 - The punk bands loved The Ventures for the simplicity, 1376 01:04:09,947 --> 01:04:12,349 the do it yourself mentality. 1377 01:04:12,449 --> 01:04:14,818 - Oh yeah, Ventures signed my guitar. 1378 01:04:14,919 --> 01:04:18,122 - I think that's how a lot of people learned to play. 1379 01:04:18,222 --> 01:04:19,256 So, that's why they loved them. 1380 01:04:19,356 --> 01:04:21,391 And it was very simple to play. 1381 01:04:21,491 --> 01:04:23,027 It's very hard to get right 1382 01:04:23,127 --> 01:04:24,394 but it's simple to play. 1383 01:04:24,494 --> 01:04:28,865 - The rapid fire rhythm of punk 1384 01:04:28,966 --> 01:04:31,635 was very reminiscent of Don Wilson's 1385 01:04:31,735 --> 01:04:34,071 punk rhythm playing on 1960. 1386 01:04:34,171 --> 01:04:35,805 No one was playing bar chord like that. 1387 01:04:35,906 --> 01:04:37,174 Other people were jazz guitarists 1388 01:04:37,274 --> 01:04:40,277 playing finger-pick style and bar chords and all that. 1389 01:04:40,377 --> 01:04:45,115 Don Wilson was doing a punk style rhythm guitar. 1390 01:04:45,215 --> 01:04:47,517 - A bar chord, for people that don't play guitar, 1391 01:04:47,617 --> 01:04:49,186 as oppose to the cowboy chords, 1392 01:04:49,286 --> 01:04:51,621 which are what you learn when you play classical, 1393 01:04:51,721 --> 01:04:53,790 it's a chord that can be played 1394 01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:56,226 with one finger, two fingers underneath 1395 01:04:56,326 --> 01:04:59,629 and it can be moved up and down the neck of the guitar. 1396 01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:02,299 So, if you want to play G, A and B, 1397 01:05:02,399 --> 01:05:05,435 you don't have to learn all this complicated Segovia stuff. 1398 01:05:05,535 --> 01:05:07,471 You play the same thing but you move it. 1399 01:05:07,571 --> 01:05:09,773 The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, 1400 01:05:09,873 --> 01:05:13,643 all of the kind of iconic 101 punk stuff 1401 01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:15,545 is based around bar chords. 1402 01:05:15,645 --> 01:05:17,681 Johnny Ramone used a Mosrite guitar 1403 01:05:17,781 --> 01:05:19,283 but that that was by design or not, 1404 01:05:19,383 --> 01:05:20,517 I have no idea. 1405 01:05:20,617 --> 01:05:22,119 I never asked him. 1406 01:05:22,219 --> 01:05:24,754 But that's definitely a Ventures' style guitar 1407 01:05:24,854 --> 01:05:27,424 and there were Ventures' style guitar chords 1408 01:05:27,524 --> 01:05:30,360 all the way through all The Ramones stuff. 1409 01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:33,430 - We were big fans of The Ventures. 1410 01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:35,732 We loved the instrumentals they did. 1411 01:05:35,832 --> 01:05:38,468 They were the best at what they do. 1412 01:05:38,568 --> 01:05:40,370 - The Ventures sounded dangerous. 1413 01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:41,805 They sounded "hoodlum-y". 1414 01:05:41,905 --> 01:05:43,907 Their music just sounded like, 1415 01:05:45,075 --> 01:05:46,776 like it would befit the kind of people 1416 01:05:46,876 --> 01:05:49,779 that would show up in hotrods to the beach 1417 01:05:49,879 --> 01:05:50,880 in leather jackets 1418 01:05:50,981 --> 01:05:52,983 and then just hang out there, 1419 01:05:53,083 --> 01:05:54,251 not right on the sand 1420 01:05:54,351 --> 01:05:57,621 but on the beac. like, "hoodlum-y" smoking a cigarette 1421 01:05:57,721 --> 01:06:00,357 and watching the girls in their bikinis go by. 1422 01:06:00,457 --> 01:06:01,925 - The Ventures live in Japan, 1423 01:06:02,026 --> 01:06:06,963 it has the most aggressive, amazing sound, I think ever. 1424 01:06:07,064 --> 01:06:09,866 I mean, I think that the Sex Pistols 1425 01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:11,735 were getting a run for their money there. 1426 01:06:11,835 --> 01:06:14,104 - I actually got my job 1427 01:06:14,204 --> 01:06:17,174 because a guy who had been the road manager 1428 01:06:17,274 --> 01:06:20,077 was about six two, six three 1429 01:06:20,177 --> 01:06:24,481 and he got his nose broken at Disneyland 1430 01:06:24,581 --> 01:06:26,050 at a gig at Disneyland. 1431 01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:27,251 I asked him, 1432 01:06:27,351 --> 01:06:29,686 I said, how come you're willing to give this gig up? 1433 01:06:29,786 --> 01:06:33,223 He said, too crazy for me. 1434 01:06:33,323 --> 01:06:36,026 And at that time The Ventures were all in their mid 40s 1435 01:06:36,126 --> 01:06:37,494 and this was too crazy. 1436 01:06:37,594 --> 01:06:38,895 The mods and rockers were showing up 1437 01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:40,497 having a war with each other. 1438 01:06:40,597 --> 01:06:42,966 - Oh yeah, because we had slam dancers, 1439 01:06:43,067 --> 01:06:44,601 if you ever remember that. 1440 01:06:45,735 --> 01:06:47,871 I mean, they were just rough on each other. 1441 01:06:51,308 --> 01:06:52,742 Do we appeal to them? 1442 01:06:52,842 --> 01:06:53,643 Wow. 1443 01:06:53,743 --> 01:06:55,312 - We played CBGBs in New York. 1444 01:06:55,412 --> 01:06:57,013 We played The Mudd Room in New York. 1445 01:06:57,114 --> 01:06:59,749 The 9:30 Club in Washington, DC, 1446 01:06:59,849 --> 01:07:01,218 Peppermint Lounge in New York City. 1447 01:07:01,318 --> 01:07:04,221 I had kids doing swan dives off the stage. 1448 01:07:04,321 --> 01:07:06,256 They'd get past me and run out 1449 01:07:06,356 --> 01:07:09,226 and just to a swan dive into the audience. 1450 01:07:09,326 --> 01:07:11,828 I mean, there was some, 1451 01:07:12,962 --> 01:07:14,231 they were seriously crazy times. 1452 01:07:14,331 --> 01:07:16,032 - Even though we all had our roots in punk rock, 1453 01:07:16,133 --> 01:07:18,435 we were really, really super informed 1454 01:07:18,535 --> 01:07:23,540 by that whole early '60s mod beach party aesthetic. 1455 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,077 That led to Go-Go's to write "Surfin' and Spyin'", 1456 01:07:27,177 --> 01:07:30,480 which was actually influenced by The Ventures. 1457 01:07:30,580 --> 01:07:31,615 She wrote this next song. 1458 01:07:32,949 --> 01:07:34,551 The Ventures recorded it, 1459 01:07:34,651 --> 01:07:35,685 so you'll be hearing it soon. 1460 01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:36,553 It's an instrumental. 1461 01:07:36,653 --> 01:07:37,687 It's called "Surfin' and Spyin'" 1462 01:07:37,787 --> 01:07:39,423 and it's also a dance song. 1463 01:07:39,523 --> 01:07:42,326 - And they came down to our studio 1464 01:07:42,426 --> 01:07:45,995 where we were recording and they recorded with us. 1465 01:07:46,096 --> 01:07:46,996 We recorded their song 1466 01:07:47,097 --> 01:07:49,599 and they played along. 1467 01:07:49,699 --> 01:07:51,601 - There's a pretty straight line that you can draw 1468 01:07:51,701 --> 01:07:54,504 between The Ventures and all this guitar music 1469 01:07:54,604 --> 01:07:55,739 that came later on. 1470 01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:58,041 Whether you're talking about punk rock with The Ramones 1471 01:07:58,142 --> 01:08:00,344 or new wave with the B-52's 1472 01:08:00,444 --> 01:08:01,811 or you know, even heavy metal 1473 01:08:01,911 --> 01:08:05,615 was some of the crazy sort of violent leads 1474 01:08:05,715 --> 01:08:07,083 that Nokie would play. 1475 01:08:08,685 --> 01:08:12,656 - Somebody sent me a CD of Anthrax 1476 01:08:12,756 --> 01:08:16,059 and they said, so many people just don't know 1477 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:20,630 what a contribution Don Wilson and Nokie Edwards 1478 01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:23,400 did for thrash metal. 1479 01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:24,834 - Both surf music and heavy metal 1480 01:08:24,934 --> 01:08:26,536 are the province of the electric guitar. 1481 01:08:31,141 --> 01:08:34,911 To hard rock of the 1970s, classic metal of the '80s 1482 01:08:35,011 --> 01:08:37,247 and into today's massive guitar tones 1483 01:08:37,347 --> 01:08:40,150 that form the backbone of modern extreme metal, 1484 01:08:40,250 --> 01:08:42,652 on behalf of all of us metal guitar players, 1485 01:08:42,752 --> 01:08:44,120 thank you Ventures. 1486 01:08:44,221 --> 01:08:45,189 Horns up. 1487 01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:47,056 - The Ventures have always been known 1488 01:08:47,157 --> 01:08:50,194 as the band that launched 10,000 bands. 1489 01:08:50,294 --> 01:08:53,029 - Rodney Bingenheimer, he believes that pretty much 1490 01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:55,732 almost every band was inspired by The Ventures. 1491 01:08:57,167 --> 01:08:58,568 Whether they know it or not. 1492 01:08:58,668 --> 01:09:00,437 - In the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 1493 01:09:00,537 --> 01:09:03,640 I was backstage and Billy Joel was back there 1494 01:09:03,740 --> 01:09:05,309 and he came to me and he said, you know, 1495 01:09:05,409 --> 01:09:09,045 one of the very first songs that I ever learned on the piano 1496 01:09:09,145 --> 01:09:10,847 was "Walk Don't Run". 1497 01:09:10,947 --> 01:09:12,549 There's a lot of people that give us credit 1498 01:09:12,649 --> 01:09:14,384 for a lot of things that they play, 1499 01:09:14,484 --> 01:09:17,020 which would not be our style. 1500 01:10:13,610 --> 01:10:16,546 A disc jockey we're very good friends with, 1501 01:10:16,646 --> 01:10:18,548 his name is Mark Christopher, 1502 01:10:18,648 --> 01:10:22,752 and he does a lot of work in the Seattle area 1503 01:10:22,852 --> 01:10:25,889 with KBSG Radio. 1504 01:10:25,989 --> 01:10:27,857 - Do you think they've earned a nomination yet 1505 01:10:27,957 --> 01:10:29,092 for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? 1506 01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,729 - We got a petition together 1507 01:10:32,829 --> 01:10:34,063 and had people sign it 1508 01:10:34,163 --> 01:10:36,266 that wanted us to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1509 01:10:36,366 --> 01:10:39,235 - It was an incredible moment this morning 1510 01:10:39,336 --> 01:10:40,770 in the state capital. 1511 01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:42,939 First time I know of, ever 1512 01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:45,575 when a rock and roll band was invited 1513 01:10:45,675 --> 01:10:47,176 to appear before the state legislature 1514 01:10:47,277 --> 01:10:48,412 to receive what was called 1515 01:10:48,512 --> 01:10:51,080 the proclamation of a resolution of support 1516 01:10:51,180 --> 01:10:53,116 for something that all the Senators 1517 01:10:53,216 --> 01:10:54,751 voted unanimous and believing in 1518 01:10:54,851 --> 01:10:55,852 and that the The Ventures 1519 01:10:55,952 --> 01:10:57,020 to somehow get a nomination 1520 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:57,854 to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1521 01:10:59,055 --> 01:11:02,058 - We got the legislature, the Senate and the House 1522 01:11:02,158 --> 01:11:05,562 and everybody together in Washington state. 1523 01:11:05,662 --> 01:11:06,430 - Great job. 1524 01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:08,665 We were rocking in Olympia today. 1525 01:11:08,765 --> 01:11:11,234 You know, I kind of set down a little protocol that I have 1526 01:11:11,335 --> 01:11:13,437 that requires that everything be handled 1527 01:11:13,537 --> 01:11:15,405 with dignity and decorum. 1528 01:11:15,505 --> 01:11:16,640 And we put on The Ventures 1529 01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:18,942 and we rocked on the floor of the Senate. 1530 01:11:21,478 --> 01:11:23,380 They recorded over 3,000 songs, 1531 01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:25,715 released over 250 albums. 1532 01:11:25,815 --> 01:11:28,652 They are ambassadors to the world. 1533 01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:36,092 - The Rock Hall has very strict criteria on who they accept. 1534 01:11:36,192 --> 01:11:39,929 First of all, you have to have 25 years of playing time, 1535 01:11:40,029 --> 01:11:41,264 you need a body of work 1536 01:11:41,365 --> 01:11:43,667 and your significance in the contribution 1537 01:11:43,767 --> 01:11:45,635 and perpetuation of rock and roll 1538 01:11:45,735 --> 01:11:47,937 is also a key criteria point. 1539 01:11:48,037 --> 01:11:52,642 - We were eligible for 22 years. 1540 01:11:52,742 --> 01:11:54,277 - They were preeminently qualified 1541 01:11:54,378 --> 01:11:56,145 but they needed a push to get them in. 1542 01:11:56,245 --> 01:11:57,847 - There are many artists 1543 01:11:57,947 --> 01:12:01,117 that are nominated for the Hall of Fame 1544 01:12:01,217 --> 01:12:02,552 but they don't get in. 1545 01:12:02,652 --> 01:12:04,521 And I think there are some 1546 01:12:04,621 --> 01:12:06,523 that have been nominated three times 1547 01:12:06,623 --> 01:12:07,924 and they still didn't get in. 1548 01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:09,693 So, when we were nominated, 1549 01:12:09,793 --> 01:12:11,828 we got in the very first time. 1550 01:12:11,928 --> 01:12:14,063 - It all started about 50 years ago 1551 01:12:14,163 --> 01:12:17,434 when Don Wilson and Bob Bogle got together 1552 01:12:17,534 --> 01:12:20,203 and talked about maybe getting some guitars 1553 01:12:20,303 --> 01:12:21,838 and starting a band. 1554 01:12:21,938 --> 01:12:24,007 With the help of Don's mom, 1555 01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:27,110 they formed their own record company 1556 01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:28,244 and they cut an instrumental 1557 01:12:28,344 --> 01:12:31,180 that they'd heard on a Chet Atkins record. 1558 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,516 It gets picked up nationally 1559 01:12:32,616 --> 01:12:35,051 and makes it all the way to number two. 1560 01:12:35,151 --> 01:12:38,622 That record kicked open a whole movement in rock and roll 1561 01:12:38,722 --> 01:12:41,625 and empowered guitar players everywhere. 1562 01:12:41,725 --> 01:12:46,730 The Ventures have gone on to record over 250 albums. 1563 01:12:46,830 --> 01:12:51,468 Now days, some of us would be happy to sell 250 albums. 1564 01:12:52,469 --> 01:12:54,538 The Ventures are the most popular 1565 01:12:54,638 --> 01:12:57,741 instrumental rock and roll band of all time. 1566 01:12:57,841 --> 01:13:01,077 It is my honor to induct The Ventures 1567 01:13:01,177 --> 01:13:03,246 into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1568 01:13:04,581 --> 01:13:06,483 - I've had the opportunity to work with this great band 1569 01:13:06,583 --> 01:13:10,353 and I got the honor tonight to play "Walk Don't Run" 1570 01:13:10,454 --> 01:13:13,723 for a friend and a mentor, Mr. Bob Bogle, 1571 01:13:13,823 --> 01:13:15,892 the co-founder of The Ventures 1572 01:13:15,992 --> 01:13:20,263 and a truly innovator of guitar and bass guitar. 1573 01:13:20,363 --> 01:13:23,099 Bob wanted to express his profound thanks 1574 01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:26,470 for his induction and The Ventures induction 1575 01:13:26,570 --> 01:13:27,971 into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1576 01:13:28,071 --> 01:13:30,707 - I want to thank our fans all over the world. 1577 01:13:30,807 --> 01:13:33,777 May God bless you and keep you safe and healthy. 1578 01:13:35,078 --> 01:13:37,914 - It was a whirlwind five day period in New York City 1579 01:13:38,014 --> 01:13:39,182 surrounding the event. 1580 01:13:39,282 --> 01:13:42,385 - This is our display in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1581 01:13:42,486 --> 01:13:44,788 It happens to be right next to Madonna. 1582 01:13:44,888 --> 01:13:46,355 - It's really great 1583 01:13:46,456 --> 01:13:47,857 that they're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1584 01:13:47,957 --> 01:13:52,028 They absolutely are so worthy of that honor. 1585 01:13:52,128 --> 01:13:54,698 - To see The Ventures honored in a forum 1586 01:13:54,798 --> 01:13:56,132 that's very eclectic, 1587 01:13:56,232 --> 01:13:58,001 did my heart really good. 1588 01:13:58,101 --> 01:13:59,736 - I want to compliment The Ventures 1589 01:13:59,836 --> 01:14:01,805 on their 50th anniversary. 1590 01:14:01,905 --> 01:14:02,972 They certainly, 1591 01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:06,075 they're certainly in the blueprint of rock. 1592 01:14:06,175 --> 01:14:09,378 - The induction ceremony, the after glow party 1593 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,214 and all the events the day of 1594 01:14:11,314 --> 01:14:13,416 were pretty special, obviously. 1595 01:14:13,517 --> 01:14:16,219 But there was a surprising thing that we did the day after 1596 01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:18,187 and that was the ringing of the bell 1597 01:14:18,287 --> 01:14:19,889 at the New York Stock Exchange. 1598 01:14:20,857 --> 01:14:23,860 - So, The Ventures in April of 1996 1599 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,596 were honored with putting their hand prints 1600 01:14:26,696 --> 01:14:28,397 at the Rock Walk Hall of Fame, 1601 01:14:28,498 --> 01:14:31,300 which is in Hollywood at the Guitar Center. 1602 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,103 And it's since kind of become a must see stop 1603 01:14:34,203 --> 01:14:36,139 for music tourists. 1604 01:14:46,683 --> 01:14:49,052 We knew the manager of the House of Blues 1605 01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:50,153 and he got us on the bill. 1606 01:14:50,253 --> 01:14:51,320 They played that night. 1607 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:52,656 When we got to the House of Blues 1608 01:14:52,756 --> 01:14:53,657 they were very generous. 1609 01:14:53,757 --> 01:14:55,258 Their back stage door was open 1610 01:14:55,358 --> 01:14:57,193 and they answered my dopey questions. 1611 01:14:57,293 --> 01:14:59,829 And you could tell they really enjoyed what they were doing. 1612 01:14:59,929 --> 01:15:03,066 - I've had just amazing experiences and memories 1613 01:15:03,166 --> 01:15:03,933 with all these guys. 1614 01:15:04,033 --> 01:15:05,134 - You know, they were rock stars 1615 01:15:05,234 --> 01:15:06,770 without being rock stars. 1616 01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:10,373 You could just walk right up to Nokie or Don or Bob or Mel 1617 01:15:10,473 --> 01:15:11,675 and they would talk to you. 1618 01:15:11,775 --> 01:15:13,610 - They were just good people, you know. 1619 01:15:13,710 --> 01:15:14,778 You could, 1620 01:15:14,878 --> 01:15:17,113 you felt good knowing them. 1621 01:15:17,213 --> 01:15:19,916 They weren't out doing crazy things or anything. 1622 01:15:20,016 --> 01:15:22,385 - They're all such regular guys 1623 01:15:22,485 --> 01:15:25,555 that they put you at ease right away. 1624 01:15:25,655 --> 01:15:26,690 - What was interesting about that 1625 01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:30,259 is later on when you'd get attitude from rock stars, 1626 01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:32,896 I always remember how accessible these guys were 1627 01:15:32,996 --> 01:15:34,564 and how nice they were to their fans. 1628 01:15:34,664 --> 01:15:37,400 And I think that's been a big part of their success. 1629 01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:40,570 - I have some letters here from Japan. 1630 01:15:40,670 --> 01:15:42,906 Our Japanese fans are really true. 1631 01:15:43,006 --> 01:15:46,576 I mean, they start with you, they end with you. 1632 01:15:46,676 --> 01:15:47,744 Anyway, this one says, 1633 01:15:47,844 --> 01:15:52,481 thanks a lot for your nice band all the time. 1634 01:15:53,416 --> 01:15:56,786 I'm so happy to listening your music. 1635 01:15:56,886 --> 01:16:00,790 Hello, my name is Susumu. 1636 01:16:00,890 --> 01:16:02,792 I ride in a wheelchair. 1637 01:16:13,169 --> 01:16:15,238 I have a lot from different countries. 1638 01:16:15,338 --> 01:16:18,642 Some from England, Germany, you name it. 1639 01:16:18,742 --> 01:16:21,077 There was somebody that sent me a letter 1640 01:16:21,177 --> 01:16:24,347 that was totally deaf. 1641 01:16:24,447 --> 01:16:27,784 And what he use to do is play the 1642 01:16:27,884 --> 01:16:30,086 our record and put his hand on the speaker 1643 01:16:30,186 --> 01:16:31,821 and the vibration, 1644 01:16:31,921 --> 01:16:33,757 he could understand that. 1645 01:16:33,857 --> 01:16:35,759 Yeah, that's really amazing. 1646 01:16:35,859 --> 01:16:36,592 - I was a kid. 1647 01:16:36,693 --> 01:16:37,661 I was 11 years old. 1648 01:16:37,761 --> 01:16:38,928 I wrote a letter to The Ventures' fan club. 1649 01:16:39,028 --> 01:16:40,296 I wrote a letter to Bob Bogle 1650 01:16:40,396 --> 01:16:41,831 and he sent me back a letter. 1651 01:16:43,432 --> 01:16:44,834 I said, what kind of guitar should I buy? 1652 01:16:44,934 --> 01:16:45,902 And he said, thank you for your letter 1653 01:16:46,002 --> 01:16:48,404 and you should go buy a Fender Jazzmaster. 1654 01:16:48,504 --> 01:16:51,007 So, I went and bought a Fender Jazzmaster. 1655 01:16:51,107 --> 01:16:53,609 - In Seattle one time, it was just after a show 1656 01:16:53,710 --> 01:16:56,212 and a young man came up in a wheelchair. 1657 01:16:56,312 --> 01:16:57,981 He was pushed up by his brother. 1658 01:16:58,081 --> 01:17:02,786 And he wanted an autograph or something signed by the guys. 1659 01:17:02,886 --> 01:17:05,288 So, I went down and I told Bob what was up 1660 01:17:05,388 --> 01:17:06,389 and he says, well, 1661 01:17:06,489 --> 01:17:08,124 why don't I just come out there and meet him? 1662 01:17:08,224 --> 01:17:09,525 So, he did. 1663 01:17:09,625 --> 01:17:11,761 And the look on this guys face was just, 1664 01:17:11,861 --> 01:17:12,896 it was priceless. 1665 01:17:12,996 --> 01:17:14,798 And Bob was so gracious, 1666 01:17:14,898 --> 01:17:15,865 signed some things, 1667 01:17:15,965 --> 01:17:17,166 gave him some picks 1668 01:17:17,266 --> 01:17:18,601 and spent time with him. 1669 01:17:18,702 --> 01:17:22,005 And I just thought that this was a truly great man here. 1670 01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:26,309 - He was a very pensive man, 1671 01:17:26,409 --> 01:17:29,578 very introspective. 1672 01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:31,681 Before he would answer a question, 1673 01:17:31,781 --> 01:17:34,283 he would stop for a minute and think about it 1674 01:17:34,383 --> 01:17:35,651 and really give it some thought 1675 01:17:35,752 --> 01:17:36,986 before he gave you an answer, 1676 01:17:37,086 --> 01:17:39,889 which means number one, he cared about what he said 1677 01:17:39,989 --> 01:17:41,791 and he cared about what he was saying to you 1678 01:17:41,891 --> 01:17:43,492 because it was important to him. 1679 01:17:44,527 --> 01:17:46,930 - Nokie would talk, talk and talk and talk 1680 01:17:49,132 --> 01:17:51,034 until you put a microphone in front of him. 1681 01:17:51,134 --> 01:17:52,501 Then he couldn't say anything. 1682 01:17:52,601 --> 01:17:54,537 - I liked to call him the Nokester 1683 01:17:54,637 --> 01:17:56,572 because he's such a funny guy. 1684 01:17:56,672 --> 01:17:58,307 He's always telling jokes. 1685 01:17:58,407 --> 01:18:00,243 He taps me on the back, I turn around 1686 01:18:00,343 --> 01:18:03,579 and he's got two symbol felts in his eyes 1687 01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:06,249 and they're kind of like raccoon eyes. 1688 01:18:06,349 --> 01:18:08,785 And he's just got this look on his face. 1689 01:18:08,885 --> 01:18:10,053 It was priceless. 1690 01:18:10,153 --> 01:18:11,687 Don was always fun to be with. 1691 01:18:11,788 --> 01:18:13,656 He just was always joking about things 1692 01:18:13,757 --> 01:18:15,191 and always good spirited. 1693 01:18:15,291 --> 01:18:16,960 - Don's a lot of fun. 1694 01:18:17,060 --> 01:18:18,995 He's always got great stories. 1695 01:18:19,095 --> 01:18:20,997 - Fans come up and talk about the same thing. 1696 01:18:21,097 --> 01:18:22,899 He's probably heard it so many times 1697 01:18:22,999 --> 01:18:27,436 but he is genuinely thankful and gracious. 1698 01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:29,105 And that says a lot. 1699 01:18:29,205 --> 01:18:30,940 - Don and I became really good friends 1700 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,910 just because we're both a little nuts 1701 01:18:34,010 --> 01:18:34,978 and when we were on stage, 1702 01:18:35,078 --> 01:18:37,113 it was just like a couple of kids. 1703 01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:38,547 - Don, in addition to his set list, 1704 01:18:38,647 --> 01:18:40,817 had this thing called his pattern. 1705 01:18:40,917 --> 01:18:42,919 And his pattern were really bullet points 1706 01:18:43,019 --> 01:18:44,720 for all the jokes he wanted to tell. 1707 01:18:44,821 --> 01:18:48,124 - A good looking girl sit next to me, of course, 1708 01:18:48,224 --> 01:18:51,060 and I says to her, do you think you could get interested 1709 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,495 in an older man? 1710 01:18:54,063 --> 01:18:54,831 She looks at me and says, 1711 01:18:54,931 --> 01:18:56,465 why, you got a son? 1712 01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:58,968 I learned some impressions, 1713 01:18:59,936 --> 01:19:02,238 impersonations of different actors. 1714 01:19:02,338 --> 01:19:03,539 I had a hat rack 1715 01:19:03,639 --> 01:19:06,409 and I put on a different hat for different impersonations. 1716 01:19:06,509 --> 01:19:10,313 I did James Cagney and Ed Sullivan. 1717 01:19:10,413 --> 01:19:13,582 Use to be rock and roll to me then. 1718 01:19:13,682 --> 01:19:18,254 But at my age now, it's rock and Rolaids. 1719 01:19:18,354 --> 01:19:19,088 - Thank you very much. 1720 01:19:19,188 --> 01:19:20,089 We're going to feature our singer 1721 01:19:20,189 --> 01:19:20,924 - What? 1722 01:19:21,024 --> 01:19:21,757 - at this point. 1723 01:19:21,858 --> 01:19:22,591 - Wait a minute. 1724 01:19:22,691 --> 01:19:23,692 What'd you say? 1725 01:19:23,793 --> 01:19:24,861 - We're going to feature our vocalist over here. 1726 01:19:24,961 --> 01:19:27,096 - I thought we were an instrumental group. 1727 01:19:27,196 --> 01:19:30,066 - Yeah, we're basically an instrumental group. 1728 01:19:30,166 --> 01:19:31,434 We don't often sing 1729 01:19:31,534 --> 01:19:33,002 and you're going to find out why. 1730 01:19:35,004 --> 01:19:38,975 - I went down to a University of Washington seminar 1731 01:19:39,075 --> 01:19:41,210 where Don spoke 1732 01:19:41,310 --> 01:19:43,146 and it was so interesting 1733 01:19:43,246 --> 01:19:46,449 hearing him talk about some of the stories from the road 1734 01:19:46,549 --> 01:19:50,219 and he kind of demonstrated how a group could be successful 1735 01:19:50,319 --> 01:19:52,621 and have incredible longevity 1736 01:19:52,721 --> 01:19:54,590 while maintaining integrity. 1737 01:20:28,557 --> 01:20:33,062 They maintained a touring schedule over all these years. 1738 01:20:33,162 --> 01:20:37,333 It's just a very inspiring thing. 1739 01:20:37,433 --> 01:20:41,004 - I had worked now for 56 years in a row. 1740 01:20:41,104 --> 01:20:42,138 That's a lot. 1741 01:20:42,238 --> 01:20:45,508 I mean, most people do 20, 25 years, they retire. 1742 01:20:45,608 --> 01:20:47,076 I didn't want to. 1743 01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:52,181 My last show was in Japan in 2015, believe it or not. 1744 01:21:05,294 --> 01:21:08,998 Now, with me retiring, 1745 01:21:09,098 --> 01:21:11,200 the group still goes on. 1746 01:21:11,300 --> 01:21:16,105 When Mel passed away his son took over, Leon Taylor. 1747 01:21:16,205 --> 01:21:17,941 And he had learned the drums 1748 01:21:18,041 --> 01:21:20,676 when he was a little kid, from his dad. 1749 01:21:20,776 --> 01:21:22,378 - Bob Spalding and Lucas Griffin 1750 01:21:22,478 --> 01:21:24,013 head up the new version of the group. 1751 01:21:24,113 --> 01:21:25,982 Bob's been there 30 years or more. 1752 01:21:26,082 --> 01:21:27,583 And Lucas is the new bass player. 1753 01:21:27,683 --> 01:21:30,786 And I got to jam with them at Venturefest, 1754 01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:34,223 which occurs every year in October in Pennsylvania. 1755 01:21:34,323 --> 01:21:37,893 - They, like I said, go to Japan. 1756 01:21:37,994 --> 01:21:39,728 They play locally. 1757 01:21:39,828 --> 01:21:42,765 They've had offers to go to Europe. 1758 01:21:42,865 --> 01:21:44,733 I'm very happy about that. 1759 01:21:44,833 --> 01:21:47,937 I would hate to see The Ventures die on the line. 1760 01:21:48,037 --> 01:21:51,907 So, they will keep The Ventures name alive and going. 1761 01:21:57,113 --> 01:21:58,147 - Here they are still playing 1762 01:21:58,247 --> 01:21:59,348 all these years later. 1763 01:21:59,448 --> 01:22:01,184 I mean, they just keep on going 1764 01:22:01,284 --> 01:22:03,552 and keep their fans happy. 1765 01:22:03,652 --> 01:22:04,420 - They were the ones. 1766 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,889 They put out so many great albums. 1767 01:22:06,990 --> 01:22:10,126 - It speaks for the integrity of music in general too 1768 01:22:10,226 --> 01:22:12,461 that you can tour the world 1769 01:22:12,561 --> 01:22:15,298 and speak to all these different languages 1770 01:22:15,398 --> 01:22:17,500 in the single language of music. 1771 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,968 - There's never been an instrumental band 1772 01:22:19,068 --> 01:22:20,169 that's been as popular. 1773 01:22:20,269 --> 01:22:22,705 - The Ventures will always be known as, I don't know, 1774 01:22:22,805 --> 01:22:25,808 the Godfathers of guitar instrumentals. 1775 01:22:25,908 --> 01:22:29,945 - They're like the Cadillac of instrumental bands. 1776 01:22:30,046 --> 01:22:31,180 - I think The Ventures ability 1777 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,117 to make melodies stick in your head 1778 01:22:34,217 --> 01:22:36,285 and keep those songs going for as long as possible 1779 01:22:36,385 --> 01:22:39,822 is what every songwriter's goal and aim is. 1780 01:22:39,922 --> 01:22:43,726 - There were a lot of instrumental records out in those days 1781 01:22:43,826 --> 01:22:48,397 but they all kind of bordered on novelty records. 1782 01:22:48,497 --> 01:22:51,000 The Ventures had a degree of sophistication. 1783 01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:53,736 They were playing more advanced chord forms, 1784 01:22:53,836 --> 01:22:55,171 advanced melodies. 1785 01:22:55,271 --> 01:22:58,707 This was well considered, well thought out music 1786 01:22:58,807 --> 01:23:00,476 that didn't insult your intelligence. 1787 01:23:00,576 --> 01:23:02,945 And it wasn't like the were playing down to kids. 1788 01:23:03,046 --> 01:23:05,081 - They made the idea of playing a melody 1789 01:23:05,181 --> 01:23:06,349 a really cool thing. 1790 01:23:06,449 --> 01:23:08,417 - It wasn't just licks. 1791 01:23:08,517 --> 01:23:11,554 It was something that was totally accessible 1792 01:23:11,654 --> 01:23:13,822 to my ear and to my spirit. 1793 01:23:13,922 --> 01:23:15,924 - The sound just didn't effect one 1794 01:23:16,025 --> 01:23:18,927 in a sense of just a note on a guitar. 1795 01:23:19,028 --> 01:23:21,064 It literally effected you, 1796 01:23:21,164 --> 01:23:23,766 and effected me in my heart 1797 01:23:23,866 --> 01:23:25,434 and in my inner being. 1798 01:23:25,534 --> 01:23:29,238 - I would be inspired by the feelings I would get 1799 01:23:29,338 --> 01:23:31,574 and that inspired me as a songwriter. 1800 01:23:31,674 --> 01:23:33,409 - It changed people's lives, you know. 1801 01:23:33,509 --> 01:23:36,212 It's music that has totally inspired us 1802 01:23:36,312 --> 01:23:37,546 and we're not the only ones. 1803 01:23:37,646 --> 01:23:39,315 There's millions of people. 1804 01:23:39,415 --> 01:23:41,250 - We're always just consciously, 1805 01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:44,087 pretty much asking ourselves, what would The Ventures do? 1806 01:23:44,187 --> 01:23:45,788 And then that's what we do. 1807 01:23:45,888 --> 01:23:48,391 - There's going to be bands copying them for ever more. 1808 01:23:48,491 --> 01:23:49,825 There's going to be tribute bands 1809 01:23:49,925 --> 01:23:51,994 when we're all dead in the ground. 1810 01:23:52,095 --> 01:23:54,397 Even if it's only Guitar Hero type thing 1811 01:23:54,497 --> 01:23:55,831 on a video game, 1812 01:23:55,931 --> 01:23:57,933 everyone wants to get that sound. 1813 01:23:58,033 --> 01:24:01,270 - They changed the sound of psychedelic. 1814 01:24:01,370 --> 01:24:05,541 They changed the sound of mod, punk, 1815 01:24:05,641 --> 01:24:08,277 new wave, even heavy metal. 1816 01:24:08,377 --> 01:24:10,679 - It all started with The Ventures. 1817 01:24:10,779 --> 01:24:14,150 - There's no tellin how many people The Ventures influenced 1818 01:24:14,250 --> 01:24:15,618 to go out and get a guitar 1819 01:24:15,718 --> 01:24:18,454 or bug the hell out of your parents til they got you one. 1820 01:24:18,554 --> 01:24:20,323 - To become a better player, 1821 01:24:20,423 --> 01:24:22,091 you don't just listen to your influences, 1822 01:24:22,191 --> 01:24:24,393 you listen influences influences 1823 01:24:24,493 --> 01:24:26,495 and you just dig as deep as you can. 1824 01:24:26,595 --> 01:24:29,332 - In my travels for Fender musical instruments, 1825 01:24:29,432 --> 01:24:31,334 I go many corners of the Earth. 1826 01:24:31,434 --> 01:24:33,969 When you're talking guitars with other musicians, 1827 01:24:34,069 --> 01:24:37,640 undoubtedly everyone points to The Ventures 1828 01:24:37,740 --> 01:24:39,942 as far as their stepping stone. 1829 01:24:40,042 --> 01:24:44,747 - You will hear musicians say, give me a Ventures lick. 1830 01:24:44,847 --> 01:24:47,683 Right in the middle of a session the producer might say, 1831 01:24:47,783 --> 01:24:50,753 can you give me a little of that "Walk Don't Run" fill 1832 01:24:50,853 --> 01:24:52,121 or something of that nature 1833 01:24:52,221 --> 01:24:55,124 and they know immediately what they're talking about. 1834 01:24:55,224 --> 01:24:58,026 - A lot of music becomes very dated 1835 01:24:58,127 --> 01:24:59,995 and as the decades go along, 1836 01:25:00,095 --> 01:25:01,897 it doesn't age well, you know. 1837 01:25:01,997 --> 01:25:05,501 To me, if I put on a Ventures record from 1965, 1838 01:25:05,601 --> 01:25:06,769 to me it just sounds like something 1839 01:25:06,869 --> 01:25:08,103 that could have been cut yesterday. 1840 01:25:08,204 --> 01:25:09,605 - They still sound fresh. 1841 01:25:09,705 --> 01:25:11,307 They still sound great. 1842 01:25:11,407 --> 01:25:14,076 - It doesn't really sound like it's trapped in time. 1843 01:25:14,177 --> 01:25:16,379 It sounds like something that is timeless. 1844 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:17,213 - Timeless. 1845 01:25:17,313 --> 01:25:18,046 - Timeless. 1846 01:25:18,147 --> 01:25:18,881 - Timeless. 1847 01:25:18,981 --> 01:25:19,715 - Timeless. 1848 01:25:19,815 --> 01:25:20,749 - Timeless, completely timeless. 1849 01:25:20,849 --> 01:25:23,886 - It's not something where I remember when 1850 01:25:23,986 --> 01:25:25,554 but it's not popular now. 1851 01:25:25,654 --> 01:25:26,989 It's forever popular. 1852 01:25:27,089 --> 01:25:28,557 - It's like meatballs and spaghetti. 1853 01:25:28,657 --> 01:25:29,792 You know, it's just there, 1854 01:25:29,892 --> 01:25:31,460 always going to be there. 1855 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,861 - Maybe when we're on Mars 1856 01:25:32,961 --> 01:25:35,264 people are going to be listening to The Ventures 1857 01:25:35,364 --> 01:25:38,634 and twisting in antigravity. 1858 01:25:38,734 --> 01:25:41,304 The Ventures in space takes on a new meaning. 1859 01:25:41,404 --> 01:25:42,538 - There's a new generation of kids 1860 01:25:42,638 --> 01:25:43,806 that are discovering them as well. 1861 01:25:43,906 --> 01:25:45,774 And there probably will be until the end of time. 1862 01:25:45,874 --> 01:25:48,677 - I ask young kids do they know about The Ventures. 1863 01:25:48,777 --> 01:25:52,781 And a lot of them go, yeah, yeah, Ventures "Walk Don't Run". 1864 01:25:52,881 --> 01:25:55,017 - In fact, I just met a young girl today, 1865 01:25:55,117 --> 01:25:56,985 18 years old who's into surfing. 1866 01:25:57,085 --> 01:25:59,555 She knows all about The Ventures and she's 18. 1867 01:25:59,655 --> 01:26:03,359 - All the kids would be learning Ventures songs 1868 01:26:03,459 --> 01:26:05,328 right now in Japan. 1869 01:26:05,428 --> 01:26:08,197 It carries on throughout the generations. 1870 01:26:08,297 --> 01:26:09,698 - So, the good news is 1871 01:26:09,798 --> 01:26:10,766 they're immortal. 1872 01:26:10,866 --> 01:26:12,100 - If younger generations 1873 01:26:12,201 --> 01:26:14,036 get to know the music of The Ventures, 1874 01:26:14,136 --> 01:26:16,772 then in the future we'll have bolder and better music. 1875 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,915 - I think it's all fate. 1876 01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:31,487 Whatever happens is going to happen and that's it. 1877 01:26:32,521 --> 01:26:36,692 And timing and whatever just has to all come together. 1878 01:26:36,792 --> 01:26:39,295 - Well, you know, in 1960 1879 01:26:39,395 --> 01:26:42,865 when we first recorded our first hit "Walk Don't Run", 1880 01:26:42,965 --> 01:26:45,701 we were hoping that it would come to this. 1881 01:26:45,801 --> 01:26:46,535 Thank God we made it. 1882 01:26:52,575 --> 01:26:54,977 - Many thank yous to you people. 1883 01:26:55,077 --> 01:26:57,913 You people have kept us going 1884 01:26:58,013 --> 01:27:02,217 and what a reward that is for us.